EP 164 "Pushing Greatness, Are We Helping or Hurting Our Kids?" (Part 2)
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Join Dan Caldwell and ILdiKo Ferenczi for the riveting Part Two of their "Pushing Greatness: Are We Helping or Hurting Our Kids?" series on the Pretty and Punk Podcast. This episode jumps back into the conversation about the balance of fostering ambition in our children while nurturing a healthy family dynamic and maintaining a thriving spirit. Dan and ILdiKo share their personal experiences and insights from building their companies to raising tomorrow's leaders, emphasizing the fine line between pushing for excellence and supporting with love.
The couple discusses the importance of practice over results, demonstrating through their stories how commitment to the process leads to genuine success. They highlight how exposing children to real-life examples of perseverance, like their visit to watch Kobe Bryant's pre-game rituals, can inspire dedication and hard work. Dan and ILdiKo candidly address the challenges of parenting decisions, from encouraging children to finish what they start to nurturing their unique talents and interests.
Listeners are treated to practical advice on instilling resilience and embracing failure as a stepping stone to greatness. This episode doesn't shy away from the realities of the entrepreneurial journey—acknowledging the ups and downs while celebrating the lessons learned from each setback.
If you missed Part One, make sure to check the show notes for a link and catch up on the foundation of this important discussion. Dan and ILdiKo's reflections offer valuable perspectives on achieving balance and fostering an environment where every family member can thrive and pursue greatness.
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That's our responsibility as
parents to build their confidence.
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And we're the ones that need to be
encouraging to children so that they could
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strive for success,
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and that helps them develop the confidence
in their abilities and belief in
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themselves,
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setting them up for future challenges
that they know that they can get over
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that. So I do think that that's important.
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No.
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Oh.
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That's better, right,
Babe?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. She founded an
architectural concrete company.
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He.
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Founded a hundred million
dollars clothing company.
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She took the world by storm
as a social media star.
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He took the world by storm as
a famous serial entrepreneur.
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Together we started a business.
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And had babies.
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Now we're figuring out
the best ways to do both.
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Join us as we learn from other
entrepreneurs going through the same life
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struggles.
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As they share their life.
Hacks about success, love.
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Kids, and everything in between.
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Teaching kids to count is fine,
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but teaching kids what counts is the
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best quote by Bob.
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Talent never help a child with task
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athletes, they feel they can succeed by
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Maria wants Soul.
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Welcome to the Pretty Punk podcast.
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My name is Dan Caldwell and I'm
here with my beautiful wife,
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and we have another great podcast for you.
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It's a continuation from
last week's podcast.
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Yes, it's part two, pushing Greatness.
Are we helping or hurting our kids?
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And we had such a great
discussion. We want to continue.
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And it actually went pretty long,
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but there was so much good information
in there that we just really wanted to
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continue it and keep going. So we split
it into two parts, and this is part two.
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we'll link part one in the show
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Luin,
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you think about these kids that are
playing baseball or basketball or football
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or anything speaking, anything
at the highest level. And
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if you are not the best of the best,
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if you are not pushing yourself
in every aspect of your training,
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whatever that is, you will
not get there. That's right.
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And you're up against other greats.
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Well, and that's the
way that we explain it.
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I believe that we don't just freak out.
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I feel whenever we're
upset with our children,
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we really have a great way
of communicating that and why
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they should put a hundred percent
into it because it's going to do this,
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that and the other.
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Whereas maybe some people don't know
how to communicate that and they get
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frustrated and yell,
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but they're not communicating why
they need to put a hundred percent in
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it. This is a sport that you chose
or this is a thing that you chose.
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So you need to do well. Put everything.
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You can. The guy who you are going
up against is practicing right now.
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I'll tell.
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Daniel, well, I do really
love our friend Bow Easton.
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He the football player,
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so he's a football player and he got
injured and then he became a very
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successful speaker and he
specializes in storytelling.
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So we can go into that on another
podcast about making sure that
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your brand story or your
life story is very clear and
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precise so that you could
share it with your audience.
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But what I like is that his son wanted
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to be involved in sports.
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So what he did was he took his children
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to go see the basketball.
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Play. Kobe Bryant, Kobe Bryan.
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Kobe Bryant.
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And he took them two hours before
the game and they're like, why are.
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We going so early? Oh
yeah, I remember the story.
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Nobody's going to be there. Why?
You'll see, you'll see, you'll see.
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So they get there two
hours before it's Kobe out
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there, nobody else, and
he's giving it his all.
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And then a few hours later,
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the rest of the team starts coming
in and doing the drills, or.
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I think it was an hour later.
Yeah, I mean everybody,
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he's been out there for an hour on the
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court court all day already
and shooting baskets and
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starting at the free throw line,
shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot.
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And an hour later all these guys get
on the court and start practicing.
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Explain. And that.
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Just goes.
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To show he explained very well, but not
only that, but he showed it to his kids.
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He was teaching his child
how to eat from a very
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young age. You want to be like this guy,
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you want to be a sports star,
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then you have to eat like this and
you're going to have to work out like
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this and you're going to have to practice
like this. If you want to be the best,
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you have to train the best.
And that's his slogan.
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That's his thing the best. And
if you want to be the best,
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you have to copy and react and maybe
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do things that are even better
than the people that are the.
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Best challenge yourself. What about
kids that don't want to follow through?
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I know there's a lot
of families out there.
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I know a lot of parents
out there that might go,
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well just let 'em do whatever they
want to do. And I'm like, I have this.
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I guess it's kind of a guttural
feeling. You have to be in touch,
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in tune with your kid,
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but sometimes there's kids out there who
just want to try this and then they do
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this and they don't, I don't
want to play baseball anymore.
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They're done halfway through the season,
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or I don't want to finish
the basketball season,
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or I don't want to keep
speaking. I'm done with this.
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I kind of have
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thought or this feeling that when we deal
with Daniel and we haven't really come
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against it, he hasn't done
that, but I am prepared.
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I'm preparing myself for the
time when we get up to him trying
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something different, something else,
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something new and he gets halfway through
the season decides he doesn't want to
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do it,
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or maybe he's trying something new
and after the first Juujitsu class,
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he doesn't want to take Juujitsu no
more. He doesn't want to keep going. I.
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Feel like you have a good gut instinct
for what you want to do and you
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can kind of tell when your kids are
being lazy and when they don't want to do
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something.
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Yeah, I mean it could even.
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Be the environment.
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I come from the school that he's
going to play the season out. Yeah.
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I mean he's going to finish this season.
I'm not going to let him, because.
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Sometimes.
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You have to understand.
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What I'm saying. I'm not saying that you
have to get through the whole season.
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I'm not saying let them quit. You're
not quitting. If they made a decision,
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I feel it would be a good idea to
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usher them along to finish
because something in there
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may switch inside of them,
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but then also they will really learn
a lesson as to why is it that this
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isn't your thing? Why is it
that you don't like this?
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What was that thing? I mean,
if something's toxic for me,
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I quit my jazz class
because my teacher was,
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and I don't even know
how she got away with it,
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but she was smoking and yelling
and stomping and she was crazy.
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But my other dancing teachers,
so that made me want to quit.
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I remember a kid.
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I'm not going.
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Back to this care. I remember
watching a story or something,
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I'm trying to remember what it
was, but it was a while ago,
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probably 10 years ago or so.
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But it was about a kid
who wanted to quit soccer
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and it turned out a lot of
why he wanted to quit soccer.
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He had told his dad that it
was because he hadn't scored
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and his dad made him keep
playing and he finally scored a
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couple games before the end of the
season and he was so happy after that.
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And he started to realize
that he could score,
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but a lot of it was he
didn't think he could score.
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And when he finally scored it, it
changed his perspective on the game,
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on playing.
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And then he went on to keep playing season
after season because once he realized
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he could score, he really kept
chasing that. It gave him.
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A.
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Confidence. It was that feeling that he
wanted to change and that confidence.
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I actually, I just saw a post
today about this parent who
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this kid didn't want to
go down this big slide.
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It was kind of a skateboard
ramp, like a skate ramp.
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And his dad was trying to let him slide
down it, but he didn't want to go.
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And his dad was holding his arms
almost like making him bear hug
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himself so that he would just go.
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He just wanted him to go down and the kid
kept trying to fight him a little bit.
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You could see parents getting a little
uncomfortable about him doing this
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because he was almost going to push his
kid down, throwing your kid in the pool.
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They don't want to swim or
something. But here's what I saw.
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I didn't know what was going to,
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was this going to be against
what he was thinking,
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his idea of pushing his kid down?
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Was it going to be all these parents
coming against that thought process or was
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it going to be the other way around?
And it was the other way around.
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What happened was when the kid
finally was pushed down the slide,
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he couldn't get 'em off the slide anymore.
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He wanted to do it over and
over and over and over again.
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And sometimes kids just don't
know what they want, what they're.
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Capable of.
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And that's our responsibility
as parents to build their
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confidence.
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And we're the ones that need to be
encouraging to children so that they could
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strive for success.
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And that helps them develop the confidence
in their abilities and belief in
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themselves,
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setting them up for future challenges
that they know that they can get over
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that. So I do think that that's important.
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To push.
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Our way.
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You have to push your kids in
a loving way with behind it,
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but sometimes it's a little bit hard.
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They can see through hard hundred
for sure. They could see through you.
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If they don't feel the love
and they don't feel that this
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is for a good cause for them,
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then they're smart. They're smart,
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but also don't discount
their abilities. I mean,
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look at what you thought
about Daniel. You're like,
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there's no way he's going to learn
quotes. And then at two, he was learning.
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No, I didn't. I thought he
was going to be great at that.
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Is when you started teaching him,
which was a really hard poem,
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or was it classical? Was it if, yeah,
it was all of those. It's really hard.
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It's a really hard poem. And
when you were teaching him that,
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I just like, this isn't
even normal English.
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It's a little easier if you were teaching
somebody words that people already
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know, but at five years old or four years
old, when you were teaching it to him,
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he was four. I was thinking,
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how isn't how we normally even speak?
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It's really going to be hard for him to.
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Learn these patterns. The
man marina, A man marina.
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Is the same way. That's a super, most
adults can't remember that speech. I mean,
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no adults can remember that speech.
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There's not an adult that I know
that does that speech by heart.
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Even if you watch 'em on YouTube
recite the speech they're reading,
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none of them. They're all
reading it, all of them.
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There's nobody who knows that by heart
except for Daniel. But he loves it.
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At five years old, he was spitting
that out. It was nobody's business.
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But we pushed, I mean, you pushed
him really hard while I was,
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wasn't there always. I wouldn't say.
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It was hard, but we would do
it every day. Okay, Danielle,
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it's time to do this when.
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It's time to do that fun
a little bit. I think, oh,
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I would have to say that you
made it fun for him. Yeah.
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So he enjoyed it. It was his
routine and that's what it was.
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We made it a part of our
routine in a loving way.
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And you'd be amazed. I mean,
I had more time with Daniel.
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He was counting to 10 at two and
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Destiny doesn't even want to count to
10 because she's got other interests.
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There you go. It's just the difference.
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And that's a thing when you can
pick up what they love doing.
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Like Daniel, I love planets.
Oh, you love planets. Well,
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let's memorize the planets.
Let's learn about the planets.
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He knew the temperature,
he knew the texture.
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He knew the order Destiny tried it,
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doesn't want to learn it, not interested.
She's interested in other things.
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I think what was always interesting to
me is when I saw you pushing Daniel,
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I was never pushed like that
as a kid. And my parents,
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when if I wanted to play
baseball, I played baseball.
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If I wanted to play soccer, I played
soccer. And I just never got that.
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My dad never yelled at me about playing
harder. They were always supportive,
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but I was never pushed hard.
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And it became an internal thing for me.
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I internally pushed myself because I
always wanted to show people that I could
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be better, and I just
really never needed that.
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So when I wanted to become
an entrepreneur, I was
studying entrepreneurs.
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I would go to people and ask them
how they built their business.
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I was self-driven.
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And so when I saw you pushing Daniel,
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it was like something
I was like, he's fine.
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In my head I was thinking,
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he's fine.
Let him become who he wants to become.
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And I think it caused a little rift
between me and because you were
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pushing him so hard,
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but then slowly I saw how
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he gravitated towards it and I had to
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internalize, am I doing the right thing?
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Is my mindset right here?
I think I have this wrong.
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I don't think I'm right
here. And I flipped.
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And parenting is a constant journey.
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And at that point I just said,
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what you are doing is
what I need to be doing.
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And so I think I added
to that and came up over
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the top, but I think you
got that from your mom and
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that was life-changing for Daniel,
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and I appreciate that you brought
that into our family. Also,
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I think one thing that we
didn't speak about yet,
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it's important to praise the
practice. Oh, yes, a hundred percent.
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I think where parents get it wrong so
much is they come in late and they want to
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praise the goal. And so
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the goal, meaning when they finally
score a goal or which is great,
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great job, but praising the process, yes,
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that's so important that it takes to get
there is what helps them find their way
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through this entanglement that this,
how do I become better? A hundred.
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Percent.
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That is, and the way you become better
is through practice, through repetition,
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and.
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That's with everything
praising the practice.
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You don't want to always say that
your kid, oh, that's so great,
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so this that,
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because their identity will be in that
thing and that can lead to depression,
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whole different podcast,
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but it kind of goes hand in hand
with everything that they do.
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Praise the process. Don't just say
that they're, oh, you're so great,
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you're so great, you're so wonderful.
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Praise the process That gives them
the confidence to work hard to get to.
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The goal. Daniel, you're
working hard on your practice.
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We love to see you practice like
this is if you do this every day,
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you will better than everybody out
there. Nobody will be able to touch you.
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And that's how we talk to Daniel
most of the time. You talk.
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To him more like that.
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I really, I'm a little
louder too, and I say it.
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Too. I love how you work so hard.
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You are working so hard.
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I love the way your brain works
and whatever clicks for them,
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what makes them feel buttery,
soft, and wonderful. I am so.
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Grateful. I'm not sure I'm going
through for buttery soft and wonderful.
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I'm not going through it. You know what.
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I love?
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I love that every night he comes to me and
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sometimes I feel like,
did I do enough today?
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Did I spend enough time?
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And every night he comes to me
and my daughter too, and they say,
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you're the best mommy in the world,
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and they rub my hair and my
face and that's my reward.
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That's like a mother's reward of that.
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She's doing a good job.
That she's doing okay.
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Yeah.
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You're doing a great
job. Everything's worth.
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It. You're doing a great
job, mom. And I just quickly,
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I just wanted to touch on a few things
because we're getting to that hour,
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but I really think that it's important
to talk about resilience and just
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teaching our kids that and
failure that it's okay to fail.
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It's okay to fail because that's where
people that have failed the most are
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also the people who are the best.
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I love that and I love that how
Daniel was involved in our business.
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I'm just using our children as an example
because we're with them every day.
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In Destiny two,
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we have the collectible business
where I had a successful
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swimmer line,
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but then we did the collectible business
because it was great for the kids
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because they get to see all these
entrepreneurs that are successful.
00:19:04
But we tell our children the backstory,
00:19:07
and most of these entrepreneurs have
gone bankrupt several times or lost
00:19:11
everything, and they just kept going.
00:19:14
So they know that story of not giving up,
00:19:17
and it's not just not one person
that everybody looks up to.
00:19:21
It's all these successful entrepreneurs
and leaders, and I love that,
00:19:25
that they understand.
00:19:27
And I think I encourage parents
to share that part that they
00:19:31
understand very solidly that there
00:19:36
is nothing to be ashamed of.
00:19:39
If you get something wrong
or you fail, it is a lesson.
00:19:42
It is a gold nugget. It is
a gift. It is a blessing.
00:19:46
So never look at it.
00:19:48
In a negative way.
00:19:48
One of my favorite commercials on the
planet is Michael Jordan's commercial.
00:19:53
I think it's his commercial. Maybe
it's a quote by him where, no,
00:19:57
I think it's a commercial.
00:19:58
I've missed more than
9 shots in my career.
00:20:02
I've lost almost 300 games,
00:20:07
26 times.
00:20:09
I've been trusted to take the
final winning shot and missed.
00:20:14
I've failed over and
over and over again in my
00:20:18
life, and that's why I
succeed. Yeah, I love that one.
00:20:22
If we can teach our kids that
they will find greatness in
00:20:26
something in their life.
00:20:28
Yes. So keep providing opportunities.
00:20:31
If you want to give
your children the tools,
00:20:34
keep providing them the opportunities.
Maybe they're not going to be
00:20:40
speaking on stages for the rest of
their lives or playing soccer or
00:20:45
football or whatever. They may pivot
and understand that it's okay to.
00:20:49
Pivot. Let them explore other.
00:20:50
Things. It's okay to pivot and
you're going to pivot in life.
00:20:53
You are doing tapout.
00:20:56
I had an architectural concrete company.
00:20:58
I thought I was going to be a jeweler
then I thought I was going to be an
00:21:01
actress.
00:21:02
But sometimes it takes you to
get to the top and then God has a
00:21:07
different path for you.
00:21:09
Or maybe you weren't on your path and
God has to straighten that out for you
00:21:14
where you're on your God-given path, and
I feel like this is our path right now.
00:21:18
This is our blessing.
00:21:19
This is when we see that we are able
00:21:24
to inspire and connect and just
00:21:29
give people the community to entrepreneur
00:21:33
parents. Not every mom has a business.
00:21:37
Not every dad has a business,
but even as a stay at home mom,
00:21:41
that is a business. You're working
harder than most entrepreneurs,
00:21:45
I promise. I founded an
architectural concrete company and
00:21:50
people were very impressed
when I said that.
00:21:53
And I remember thinking,
00:21:57
and my mom was different
because she was an entrepreneur,
00:21:59
but I remember thinking, oh,
00:22:02
they're going to just think
that I'm just a mom. But no,
00:22:06
you are in charge of this child's legacy,
00:22:11
his future. You have so much more,
00:22:16
I want to say like treasure what
you're pumping into this child,
00:22:21
all that blood, sweat,
00:22:22
and tears and everything that
you have within you that is a
00:22:27
CEO or architect of the home,
whatever you want to call it.
00:22:31
But that is a fricking important
job. So congratulations.
00:22:36
I love this community
that God has created.
00:22:40
Us to. I think if you're that
person, you can help your child find.
00:22:44
If you have that mindset,
00:22:46
you can help your child
find the greatness in him.
00:22:49
And remember every great leader
that has done the speech,
00:22:54
a lot of them think, who? My mom?
00:22:58
Right? Okay. And their dad. And their
dad. Their dad should be thanked too.
00:23:03
Yeah, they should be on. They
should. Dad's put in a lot of work.
00:23:06
But I think we are in a different
generation now where the dads are actually
00:23:12
doing more, putting more in.
They're not, I don't know.
00:23:16
I feel like men were so influenced.
00:23:18
Your job is just to go to work and
then come home and relax and sit down.
00:23:23
When the children see you're involved,
00:23:26
they have a different respect
and a different, they can.
00:23:31
They're smart little humans. They're
smart. So I just feel like today,
00:23:36
yeah, kids are probably thinking
their mom and their dad.
00:23:39
They see how involved the
fathers are of today's
00:23:44
generation and.
00:23:45
Choose to see greatness in your
kids. Yes, truly. Remember,
00:23:49
greatness is not born.
00:23:51
You can build greatness into your.
00:23:56
Kids. Well, you have to spark that thing.
00:23:58
You have to help them
find their greatness,
00:24:01
help them find what's going
to excite them. You never.
00:24:03
Forget that everybody was
born with a very important
00:24:08
purpose. God had a very,
00:24:11
very important purpose for all of us,
00:24:14
and we just have to tap into what that is.
00:24:18
And sometimes we're really lucky our
parents can help us find that when we're
00:24:22
young,
00:24:23
but sometimes it may be a
long hard road to find that
00:24:28
job or not the job, but what
is it? I always say it. The.
00:24:33
Career, the life, the
direction, the purpose.
00:24:36
The.
00:24:36
Purpose I love hear special.
00:24:40
When you hear those
stories that the stars.
00:24:42
Align for people assignment,
00:24:43
God has a very important assignment
for every single one of us.
00:24:46
We just need to find it.
00:24:48
And if we can help our
children spark into at
00:24:52
least the tools that
they're going to have to use
00:24:57
for their assignment.
00:24:59
Help them be excited. That's amazing.
00:25:01
That's one thing that I
always see when we are pouring
00:25:06
into Daniel and Destiny.
00:25:08
I see that when they are
excited about something,
00:25:13
your kid will never be better at
something that then when they're
00:25:18
excited about it.
00:25:19
If.
00:25:20
They find excitement in it.
00:25:21
You're going to force of work ethic.
They're practice, enjoy it. Yes,
00:25:25
they're going to enjoy it.
And that's the pleasure.
00:25:29
I think even for a parent to see
that they're enjoying the process.
00:25:34
They're working so hard
and they love it. That's.
00:25:38
Great. They love it. That's what
we all want for our children. Yeah.
00:25:40
So thank you guys for tuning into this
episode of the Pretty Punk podcast.
00:25:44
I hope this help you today.
00:25:46
If you know anybody who
might be struggling with
this or who's going through
00:25:51
fighting this, trying to figure
these things out, be sure to share.
00:25:54
This with them. If they're never,
00:25:55
hopefully it'll help them just start
pouring into them. We love you.
00:25:58
God bless you, and.
00:26:00
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00:26:01
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next week. God bless.
00:26:05
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