EP 163 "Pushing Greatness, Are We Helping or Hurting Our Kids?" (Part 1)
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In this compelling first installment of a two-part series on the Pretty and Punk Podcast, hosts Dan Caldwell and iLdiKo Ferenczi tackle the intricate dynamics of parenting in the quest for greatness. Entitled “Pushing Greatness, Are We Helping or Hurting Our Kids?" this episode jumps into the challenges of guiding children towards achieving their highest potential while safeguarding their individual passions and well-being. Dan and iLdiKo, both seasoned entrepreneurs who have navigated the waters of building and selling multi-million dollar businesses, share their experiences and perspectives on the delicate art of parenting.
The discussion kicks off with a dive into the controversial question: Are we helping or hurting our children by pushing them towards success? Dan and iLdiKo candidly reflect on their own parenting strategies, emphasizing the importance of striking a balance between encouragement and pressure. They explore the societal pressures and personal anxieties that come with parenting, whether there exists a universal right approach to encouraging children’s growth.
Highlighting real-life examples from their family life, the hosts share stories of how they’ve nurtured their children’s interests and talents from a young age, focusing on the critical role of observation and support in recognizing and fostering each child’s unique gifts.
ILdiKo shares insights into minimizing distractions like devices to better understand and guide their children’s passions, while Dan reflects on the impact of setting expectations and the significance of practice and dedication in their children’s development.
The episode also addresses the broader implications of parental pushing, drawing on examples from sports, and their own experiences, to discuss the potential for both positive outcomes and unintended consequences when the conversation turns to the narratives of well-known personalities like Dwayne Johnson and the Williams sisters, examining how parental guidance has shaped their paths to success, yet sometimes at the cost of personal strain.
As they wrap up this engaging discussion, Dan and iLdiKo remind listeners that this is only the beginning of a broader conversation, teasing the continuation of this deep dive in the next episode. They invite the audience to reflect on their own parenting styles and the fine line between pushing for greatness and nurturing with love.
This first part sets the stage for an even more detailed exploration of parenting in pursuit of greatness, promising invaluable insights for parents, entrepreneurs, and anyone invested in the future leaders of tomorrow.
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I mean, this guy was the best.
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He was the best because his dad had
pushed him so hard and he went through the
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motions,
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but he was acting out in
rebellion through other
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things and getting into stuff
that he shouldn't have got into.
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No. Oh, that's better, right, babe?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. She founded an
architectural concrete company.
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He founded a hundred million
dollars clothing company.
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She took the world by storm
as a social media star.
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He took the world by storm as
a famous serial entrepreneur.
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Together we started a business.
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And had babies.
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Now we're figuring out
the best ways to do.
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Both. Join us as we learn from other
entrepreneurs going through the same life
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As they share their life,
hacks about success, love.
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Kids, and everything in between. Every.
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Child is an artist.
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The problem is how to remain an artist
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by Pablo.
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Don't handicap your children
by making their lives
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easy by rubble a
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Welcome to this episode of the Pretty
Punk podcast. I'm your host, Dan Caldwell,
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and I'm here with my beautiful wife.
Hi guys.
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And we have another great podcast
for you guys. Sorry about that.
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We have another great
podcast for you guys,
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and it's just about something that is
pressing on our heart because we're always
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trying to push our kids and it's
are we helping or hurting our kids
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by pushing them or not
pushing them as hard as we do?
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Because I feel like that there is that
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middle ground you have to find
whether you are pushing your kids or
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not pushing your kids. I see a lot
of families out there that are just,
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and I recently heard this,
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and this is where the conversation
actually comes up from,
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is where they were. And I
see the point of view too,
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that when they let their
kids just kind of find their
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way and they're kind of playing video
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games and roaming around
and trying to do on social
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media, well, I worry
maybe playing basketball,
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but they're trying to find their way.
Should we be pushing them at all?
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And if so, how hard? What do you
think? Well, before we jump into that,
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Are we helping or hurting
our children when we try
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to push them into greatness?
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I have something to say
on this. I really do. The.
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Floor is.
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Yours, the floor is mine. So for me,
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in my experience,
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and I found this very useful in our home,
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we did not expose our children to devices.
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I know that that's something
that is recommended,
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but we've really kept
that until they were four
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years old. Destiny was
a little bit younger,
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but I feel when you don't have any kind of
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distractions or you have them on
YouTube, you really get to. Plus,
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I had the privilege of staying at
home with my children. Of course,
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there was a part of that time
when I was fighting for my life,
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but I was so lucky and
grateful to be with my
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children so I could see what
sort of things that they
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gravitated to at a very young age.
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And I think that's very important
for parents to be able to have that
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observation of their children,
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to see what type of things
that they like do. And I
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do feel a lot of that is
also influenced by us.
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I didn't use devices for
health reasons around them.
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So they would see us interact with
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adults. They would come to
our meetings, I would speak,
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we would pray over them,
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we would speak inspirational
quotes and share them.
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And Daniel,
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at a very young age
started saying quotes and
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destiny was into movement. And I
think as a mother and a father,
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you can really see what sparks
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their excitement and their happiness
and the things that they like.
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So introduce those
things into their lives.
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But let's move forward a little bit.
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Let's go to a point where Daniel is,
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we've kind of decided. So at this point,
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we have this company that
has a lot to do with quotes.
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So we're introducing quotes to Daniel
Daniels likes doing these quotes.
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So he started spitting these quotes
onto when we would do videos and stuff.
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And so we just started recording him
and we realized that he liked it a lot.
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So it kind of became his
thing. And then we said,
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and then he started doing longer and
longer. He started doing long poems. Well,
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because.
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He.
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Was, and you were pushing him really
hard at that time. Well, because.
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He was.
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Let's talk about pushing though.
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But I can't say that I'm pushing.
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I felt more like I'm pouring into
He's hungry for more. And you said,
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I can't even believe a child this
young is doing this stuff. I said,
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he loves the challenge. He's
learning not children's prayers,
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but adult long adult prayers.
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He's learning very intricate poems,
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classical poems. He was doing scripts.
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He was in an acting class,
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not because I wanted a in it,
but he was interested. Oh,
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what was acting? I told him
what acting classes were about,
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and I said, but you're not old
enough. And he said, can I go? I said,
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you have to be five years old. So he was,
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remember he was three and a half?
He was three half. And he said,
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you went into the school, into the class.
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And I had a little pull because
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I was doing really well in
acting before I got pregnant.
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And I just kind of bypassed the age thing.
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And they asked him how old he
was. He says, I'm five years old.
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But he was just almost
like he's pushing himself.
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And he does, and don't get me
wrong, I know he pushes himself,
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but what I'm trying to get out of you
here is that we're not necessarily talking
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about where we're taking the
kids once they find something.
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You've called me off on him
before. I've gone off on Daniel A.
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Little bit when I saw him not giving
a hundred percent when I know he has
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it.
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In him. Oh yeah. That is more like now
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because he has dedicated himself
to become a public speaker.
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Now, if he's going to go out,
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if this is his wish to change the world,
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to perform his speech, the power of words,
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then he needs to be in
it a hundred percent.
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If he doesn't want to
perform, then don't perform,
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but don't go at it
halfway. I understand that.
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And I can explain that to him in a way
where he understands he's a little bit
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older now,
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and now that he's made that
his career choice at the
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moment. And he also understands
that this can pivot.
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He could be an architect
or whatever he wants to be,
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but it's important for him
to take accountability for
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himself.
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Himself. Well, there are parents out
there that will, I mean, you'll see 'em.
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You go to any kid's baseball
game or soccer game or whatever,
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or some of these practices
where these parents are paying a
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lot of money maybe to put 'em in a
certain type of practice and don't,
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when they know they're not,
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or maybe they think
they're not giving 150%,
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you'll hear them screaming across
the field or yelling at 'em,
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or they're walking to, maybe they
didn't get a hit during the game,
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or maybe they're not,
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they didn't dig hard enough when
they were trying to get a catch.
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Or maybe they weren't practicing
hard enough, whatever it might be.
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And you have these parents that
are really putting it on their
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kids.
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Yeah, I can't relate to that because,
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and going back, yes, I've seen
that, but I can't relate to that.
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That's not my style. And going back a
little bit when you were saying pushing,
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I feel like it's important to not
have anything interrupting the
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babies and the toddlers because that's
when you're going to find out what
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they're interested in. I think those
parents that are yelling and freaking out,
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it's almost like,
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are they truly doing something
successful today or are they trying to
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relive their path?
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Maybe they were soccer stars when they
were a kid or a football player or a
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baseball player or a basketball
player or a painter, whatever.
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They had this glory moment
when they were kids.
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That was their gift.
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But that may not necessarily be our
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children of today's gift. Yes, I
liked entrepreneurship and stuff,
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and it's so cool that Daniel's into that,
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but Destiny wasn't into that.
She was into dancing and movement.
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Now that she sees her brother doing stuff,
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now I really want to be a part
of what my brother's doing.
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She's inspired by him,
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but you cannot force success
at doing something that
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may not be that kid's God given gift.
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So I feel when I see
and I observe that type
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of behavior, that's not it. I mean,
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I had different talents than my brother,
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but we both had a love for business.
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My mom never had to yell
or push us to greatness,
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even in dance. And we were getting
medals and all these things,
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but we knew my mother's story of how
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hard she worked to get us to a land and
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what she sacrificed to get
us to a land of opportunity.
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And I feel a lot of people
don't realize what they have.
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And I'm not going to be raising
entitled or spoiled children.
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They know grandma's story,
they know my story, and
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I feel they're more
excited about doing great
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things and being close to the
Lord because of who we are,
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and they know our story.
But yes, as you were saying,
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that type of pushing,
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I feel like that's very toxic and so scary
for that child because they might not
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even want to do that sport.
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They may do the sport till they graduate
and then they're going to leave it.
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Well, I think that's why it's very fine,
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because I do think kids like
anybody needs pushing. Yes,
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of course, when you're
coaching, pushing. But.
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Do they love what they're doing?
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Well, yeah, but maybe they
love what they're doing.
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But sometimes a coach take the
parent out of the equation.
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Sometimes a coach. And when you have
a coach, you should let your coach,
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coach rather than parent over 'em.
I believe I've seen that too often.
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And that's not a good thing. But
if you're coaching your own kid,
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there's a certain level
of to push that kid,
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sometimes you have to push 'em
to a certain level. I mean,
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I think it's LeBron or
no, it wasn't LeBron.
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I think it was Kobe whose dad
pushed him really hard to practice,
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hard to tell him that he had to have so
many shots in before the end of the day.
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And those are the types of things.
You're setting expectations for them.
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That makes sense. That
makes sense. And of course,
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if we have the opportunity to go to
school, and when I was in school,
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I knew I had to come home with the
grades. I knew I had to work extra hard.
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And I remember being eight years
old and I woke up to the sound
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of my mom crying,
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and it still gets me emotional
because I went into the bathroom and
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that's usually when she
unwinds. She's having a bath.
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And I heard her cry two times in her life
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once with my report card,
I think I got a c plus.
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And then another time when my brother
died, those were the only two times.
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She was a very strong woman,
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and she sadly had to pull her
weight as of mother and father
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in one.
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So I'm sure she had emotions behind
closed doors that I didn't see maybe.
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But those were the two times.
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And it hit me so hard because I knew
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immediately why she was crying
because she's working so hard.
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And all I had to do was go to
school and pull the grades in.
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And I knew in my head that
I was talking a little too
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much and getting sidetracked.
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I was doing things that I knew
were distracting me in class.
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So I didn't get the mark. I knew why I
didn't get the mark and I was capable.
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I was always on the honor
roll older, but I feel like
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it just, I don't know,
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you just want to do great. Just
like that Hungarian soccer player,
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he knew when he did the interview,
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they were asking him about his
success. And he said his father was,
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spent a lot of time
with him playing soccer,
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practicing and pouring into him.
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But he knew how hard his father
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had gone through life. So
he wanted to make him proud.
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And that was almost a bonus for
him because he had this weight that
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pushed him, that catapulted
him to do great. And I feel.
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What do you think? Well, I was
thinking about Dwayne Johnson's story.
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I remember reading a post of
his maybe a couple weeks ago,
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and he was talking about his dad.
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I don't know if it was his dad's birthday,
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but he was kind reminiscing about his dad.
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And he said he wished he had repaired
their relationship before he passed.
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But he said his dad was very hard on him.
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And if I read into that a little
bit and not knowing the whole story,
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so I could be way off. But if I
just read into that a little bit,
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Dwayne Johnson's accomplished a lot,
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and his dad was a wrestler too.
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And Dwayne Johnson far exceeded
the level that his dad had.
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But his dad was a famous wrestler.
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And I think if this was the
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case, his dad wanted better for him.
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He wanted him to excel past
what he had done and was
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probably pushing him very hard
in certain places of his life.
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And of course that played
out in Dwayne's life,
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but at the same time, it may have
caused their relationship to fracture.
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So Dwayne Johnson went on to become
one of the greatest superstars
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of our lifetime, one of the most
famous people on the planet,
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but at the same time,
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it probably early on caused a
fracture in their relationship.
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And I don't know, that's a
hundred percent the case,
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but that's kind of what I got
from that post if I read into that
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post. So pushing him got that success.
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And I know I've read
other stories actually,
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that other movie that Will
Smith movie King Richard about
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Serena and Venus Williams,
that was a case of,
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and watching the movie, and
it might've even been harder.
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Maybe they didn't show
everything in there,
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but he pushed his kids hard
and he made them practice hard.
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And when they didn't give
150%, he called them out hard,
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but they knew he loved them. And I.
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Think that's.
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The difference. That's the difference.
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When somebody just walks on the field and
you have this parent walk on the field
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and there's not love there,
and they try to force this,
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you need to practice. You need
to work hard onto that kid.
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It falls on deaf ears.
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And maybe when they don't feel that love
the fight and they think that other,
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and Divisioning ensues.
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And that other point of
if their parents aren't
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successful and not even successful,
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but had to understand the
sacrifices and all the
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work that they put into giving
them a life of opportunity to
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having the privilege of
going after a passion.
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If you guys haven't watched King Richard,
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you guys got to watch that because
it's just a really, really good movie.
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And it just,
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if you want to pour into your kids
or you want greatness for your kids,
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there's a balance of
expectation there in that movie.
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And it's almost like the perfect balance.
It's like he's hard on his kids, but
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he's also expecting greatness from them,
and they love doing what they're doing.
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So they found what they love to do.
They enjoyed what they love to do,
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and now they're excelling in it.
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And he's pushing them hard
because he sees greatness in that.
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Right? And they probably
wanted to do well.
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I don't think anybody, when
they're fulfilling their passion,
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they don't want to do bad.
They want to do great.
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I feel when we look at our kids,
I feel like they want to do great.
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And I remember all the way back
to when I was performing at three
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years old on stage doing
the Hungarian pillow
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dance,
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and I remember making
the wrong steps and I
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was, in my head, I'm
like, ah, I messed up.
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And then the crowd started laughing,
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and eventually I ended up
throwing my pillow at the audience
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because they were laughing. And I had
my feelings hurt because I was already,
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my mom never pushed me,
but I was already trying.
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Your mom never pushed you?
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Well, no. I mean, at three years old, I.
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Met your.
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Mom. When I was older, the older I got,
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the responsibility became greater.
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And especially after my brother's death,
it was just two women in the house.
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That's it. Nobody was helping us.
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So the responsibility was
different than when I was three.
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But I remember her running up, my mom ran
up after the performance and she said,
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why did you do that? And I
said, they were laughing at me.
00:20:25
And she said, they were laughing
at you because you were cute.
00:20:31
And they were all screaming Chi paprika,
00:20:35
which is how I got my nickname, spicy
Little Pepper. I had a little temper,
00:20:39
which Destiny has too. I feel
like yes, you still have kids
00:20:45
when they're doing something that
they love, they want to do it greatly.
00:20:49
They want to do it well, I feel
that's in them. And as parents,
00:20:53
we know and we know how to
lead them into greatness.
00:20:57
I remember Daniel.
00:20:58
We should know how.
00:20:59
Well we need to.
00:21:01
And I feel like instinctually we
kind of are given that gift from.
00:21:06
God. Yeah. But's some parents out
there. I mean, there was a story,
00:21:07
I remember watching the story. I think
it was on 30 30 if is that the ESPN show?
00:21:11
I think what it's called. And it was
about this football player played for USC,
00:21:16
Todd Marinovich or something
like that. And he played for USC.
00:21:21
And I remember his dad pushing him
really hard since he was young,
00:21:25
since like three years old. He couldn't
eat nothing with sugar. No. I mean,
00:21:30
we do a lot of that too, but we're not,
they made it sound so bad in the show.
00:21:34
Well, I think all parents
come at What do you mean.
00:21:37
You don't like them? I mean, they
had to do pullups and pushups.
00:21:41
And at that level it doesn't sound bad.
00:21:43
It almost sounds like you have to
step back and go, is that really bad?
00:21:47
Or is he trying to give
him the tools to win?
00:21:50
But at some point they had
a fractured relationship.
00:21:53
Well, if it's toxic,
if he's crying, I won.
00:21:56
That's what I mean. And I
think it got to that point.
00:21:59
And the time he was in high school,
I mean this guy was the best.
00:22:03
He was the best because his dad had
pushed him so hard and he went through the
00:22:07
motions,
00:22:08
but he was acting out in
rebellion through other
00:22:12
things and getting into stuff
that he shouldn't have gotten.
00:22:15
Into. And how you think that that is,
00:22:16
was it the influence
that he kept around him?
00:22:18
People there was so much promise.
Oh, it was definitely all of that.
00:22:22
Because that's another reason rebelling
why parents of today are homeschooling
00:22:26
because there's toxic,
00:22:29
toxic influence out there that can just be
00:22:33
change. I was watching
someone do an interview,
00:22:37
I don't want to say their name,
00:22:38
but they said If I see someone that is bad
00:22:43
hanging out with my kid, and we're not
at that stage, we haven't had that.
00:22:47
But he said, I will do everything
to bust up that relationship.
00:22:51
And I'm like, maybe parents really do
need to do that. I'm going to take a.
00:22:55
Note.
00:22:56
Remember that little kid on the playground
that you used used to every time he
00:22:59
would try to come up and
play with Daniel? Oh.
00:23:01
Yes, I would just because he would swear.
00:23:04
And it's time to go. We got to go. It's.
00:23:07
Like Dan, go. Yes, yes. You just, I mean,
just do your, most of the kid's name.
00:23:12
Used to.
00:23:12
Call him out. Doesn't even matter.
It doesn't matter. I don't know.
00:23:14
I don't know. But I think that
that was okay in his family,
00:23:19
and I just really didn't
want them to even see.
00:23:22
I would just stand in front of
them. He just stuck out of control.
00:23:24
Just an older kid out of control.
00:23:27
So it's just like you see the
tornado coming, it's time to go.
00:23:31
It's time to go. It's time to go.
00:23:33
But I just think that that story
about the football player, Todd,
00:23:39
when I think about that, I
think that there is probably,
00:23:44
there's some there where
that when you get past or
00:23:49
over that threshold,
00:23:50
and if your kid doesn't
feel like it's in love,
00:23:55
that you're doing this in love, oh gosh.
00:23:57
And that you're not maybe explaining
yourself. I think we always,
00:24:00
I've come down hard on Daniel, but I
always start in a lead with Daniel.
00:24:05
You're better than that. You can do
better than that. Stop fooling around.
00:24:09
You're supposed to be practicing right
now. And maybe I'm a little hard.
00:24:13
You've had to call me off on him
a couple of times. I hate it.
00:24:16
Can I tell you why I know
can be better? And I see it,
00:24:19
and especially when we're up
against a little bit of a,
00:24:22
he was practicing for
one of his speeches and
00:24:27
I had to let him know that time
was not on our side. Right.
00:24:30
But also, I mean,
00:24:32
he's not in the type of sport where
say he plays and he plays poorly,
00:24:37
he's going to still get a victory
prize or trophy or ring or whatever.
00:24:40
He's not in any of those. But I
feel like, what is it, Darlene?
00:24:49
My family. Oh.
00:24:51
Your heart. I know. Okay,
00:24:56
can I give you a hug? Okay.
00:24:59
You tell him that you love him and
you want him to love you back. Oh,
00:25:03
sweet baby.
00:25:08
Okay, now struggle is real.
She loves her brother.
00:25:12
She loves her brother back. I
was going to give her a hug,
00:25:14
but she's running to go be with her.
00:25:16
Brother. She's going to be okay.
00:25:17
But what I was going to
say was, yes, you can push.
00:25:22
I don't really like it when you do that,
00:25:24
but I do understand with the
thing that he's pursuing,
00:25:29
the speaking,
00:25:30
he wanted to be in a speaking contest
and we knew he couldn't win because you
00:25:34
had to be 18. But they let him,
00:25:38
and he's been in tons of speaking contest
and he still made contest to the final
00:25:41
round contest. Yeah, he still won. And.
00:25:45
He did. Amazing. People
were cheering for him.
00:25:48
Everybody on the show was.
00:25:51
Cheering for him. But I was
worried that he might not.
00:25:54
Part of my mama bear was like,
00:25:56
what if they don't even let him
go through and then his heart's
00:26:01
going to break. But then at the
same time, I knew as the mama bear,
00:26:05
I have to let his heart break because
then he understands that either he has to
00:26:09
do better or he will learn
from this experience.
00:26:13
But he actually did surprisingly well.
00:26:16
He did amazing and kicked butt in both.
00:26:19
Mouth. I think he did the best
of anybody I saw on there.
00:26:21
There might've been better people. I
feel like I saw he did better than.
00:26:24
Anybody. When you get to expose
your kids to things at a young age,
00:26:28
they're fearless.
00:26:30
They're.
00:26:30
Fearless. I mean,
00:26:32
we have more fear about
public speaking than
00:26:36
him.
00:26:37
But when you think about these kids that
are playing baseball or basketball or
00:26:41
football or anything, speaking,
anything at the highest level, and
00:26:48
if you are not the best of the best,
00:26:51
if you are not pushing yourself
in every aspect of your training,
00:26:56
whatever that is, you, you will
not get there. That's right.
00:27:01
And you're up against other greats. Well.
00:27:03
And that's the way that we explain it.
I believe that we don't just freak out.
00:27:09
I feel whenever we're
upset with our children,
00:27:12
we really have a great way
of communicating that and why
00:27:17
they should put a hundred percent
into it because it's going to do this,
00:27:21
that and the other.
00:27:22
Whereas maybe some people don't know
how to communicate that and they get
00:27:26
frustrated and yell,
00:27:28
but they're not communicating why
they need to put a hundred percent in
00:27:32
it. This is a sport that you chose
or this is a thing that you chose.
00:27:37
So you need to do well.
00:27:41
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00:27:45
about pushing greatness. Are
we helping or hurting our kids?
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00:27:53
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