EP 155 Is Divorce Contagious Like the Flu?
In this thought-provoking episode of the Pretty and Punk Podcast, hosts Dan Caldwell and Ildiko Ferenczi delve into the sensitive topic of divorce and its impact on social circles. They explore a study suggesting a significant increase in divorce likelihood among those with divorced friends or family, sparking an insightful discussion about the influence of social environments on marital stability.
Dan and Ildiko candidly share personal anecdotes and experiences, reflecting on how external influences, including friends and social media, can shape perceptions of marriage and divorce. They emphasize the importance of surrounding oneself with positive influences, advocating for relationships that uplift and support marital bonds.
This episode is particularly compelling as it intertwines practical advice with spiritual wisdom. The hosts discuss the role of faith in fortifying marriages, citing statistics about the low divorce rates among couples who pray together. They encourage listeners to keep God at the forefront of their marriages and to be discerning about the company they keep.
As entrepreneurs and parents, Dan and Ildiko also touch upon the complexities of balancing business ambitions with family life, highlighting the challenges and rewards of this dynamic. The conversation is interspersed with lighter moments and laughter, making the episode both engaging and relatable.
Listeners, whether married or single, will find valuable insights in this episode. It's not just about the statistics of divorce but about nurturing a marriage with intention, faith, and the right support system. Join Dan and Ildiko for this enlightening discussion on the Pretty and Punk Podcast – a show dedicated to married entrepreneurs with kids, navigating the intricate dance of family and business life.
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an interesting podcast for you today.
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Scary, terrifying.
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Well, we ran across this
article that suggested
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that divorce could be contagious.
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That's scary.
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It is scary.
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Well, because the rates
are already so high as is.
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But contagious, like how
you catch it like a virus.
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Well, there was a study of over five.
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Is divorce contagious?
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As I was saying, a study of over 5
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participants found that people are 75%
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more likely,
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75% more likely to be divorced if a
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close friend or family
member was also divorced.
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I'm laughing because I'm uncomfortable.
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I mean that's.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait. It
gets even more tragic. Okay,
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147%. I mean, what does that even.
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Mean? How do you even have 147%?
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No,
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147% more likely to be divorced if they
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have multiple divorced friends
in their social circle.
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And then there's a more
sadness, a little more.
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Sadness. You already have a 50 50 chance.
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Unless you're in Laguna, then it's.
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60.
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70, 70% where our dream home was.
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Oh my gosh, that's so crazy. Wait.
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And then there's a little more
sadness of 33% more likely to
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end their marriage if a friend of a
friend is divorced, a friend of a friend.
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So even separated from sex,
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not even your best friend. Just
a friend of a friend. Oh my God,
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those are ridiculous stats. Why is that
even? I mean, I get it. I know why.
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I know. Why.
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Do.
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You think? Because if you have
people like that in your life,
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no matter what I mean, not
that they're bad people,
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but you have somebody in your life that's
close to you who just got a divorce
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for that second, for that first
little bit of being divorced,
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it probably feels like kind of a relief.
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Like they were going through this thing
and maybe they were going through some
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hard times and it sucked. Even
the divorce probably sucked.
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But imagine after they get past that
for a second and they feel like, oh,
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my ex is watching the kid and I can go
out now and I got all this free time and
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I got nobody yelling at me
when I come home late. My gosh,
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I couldn't imagine being.
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Away from my kids. That's.
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Attractive for a second for somebody.
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But the thing is, is it's fleeting.
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It's something that happens
for a minute. You are.
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Right. I have.
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Seen it. And then they
realize the mistake.
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That happened on online,
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on social media where mom gets to
get all dressed up and she has her
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few days alone and she gets to go drinking
and go to the bar and get dressed up.
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And that's not even my
thing. I hate drinking.
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I don't like to go to the bar.
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I don't like any of that stuff.
So that's not attractive to me.
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But maybe to some people that
are kind of dealing with that,
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maybe they're dealing with the
identity of they just became a new mom.
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They're really missing their
old life. They're old friends.
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And this could be just a different,
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I feel like you and I, we just
have a different group of people,
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different circle of friends,
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very people that are driven
to have great strong marriages
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that are faithful to
God to their religion,
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and they've just sliced
the fat off of their
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lives.
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But I guess I could see that's
exactly what happened. See,
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we've cleared our life.
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Cleared our.
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Life of those type of people.
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Hundred percent.
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But if there's people of
influence out there saying,
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Hey, it's actually really awesome because
you get four days off or three days or
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whatever it is, whatever it is. Oh.
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There's a TikTok out.
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There on it for sure. Oh
yeah, this is amazing.
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So I get some time off from being a mom
or a dad. I get to work on my business.
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I get to pick up chicks or.
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Whatever. But you know what though?
I bet you for a minute, like I said,
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it's fleeting. It happens for a
minute, for a second. It's okay.
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And you're excited about it. Maybe a
life change or whatever it might be.
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But then the thought of
what have I done to my
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kids? I failed at this. I failed at this.
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I couldn't be,
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the whole reason why we have this thing
is so that we could spend more time with
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our family and our kids,
but we know our goals.
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We've aligned our goals,
what we want in life,
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and we've done the work
and we know what we want.
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We've changed our businesses to a way
where we could see each other every day
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and spend more time with each
other, you and I and the kids.
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But imagine this newlywed family who's
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started a new business.
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Maybe the husband's gone and he started
a business and he comes home and she's a
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new mom. She has a baby, a little baby.
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She's going through some postpartum
and I mean, that's a hard.
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Time. Absolutely.
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And the statistics are that
the divorce happens when the
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kids are young like that. And.
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You especially when.
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Have more, you have.
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50 Chance. Yeah, exactly. I mean,
the statistic, what I'm saying,
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say you've got 50 50 chance
you're getting a divorce,
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so you already start off with a 50 50
chance. It's a crap shoot right now.
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But if you have God in your life,
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if you keep God first
place in your marriage,
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I believe the statistics are 1%,
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you have a 1% chance of getting
a divorce. But for those who,
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and that's why I'm just telling you,
if I can give one piece of advice,
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I can't tell you how to run your, I mean,
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I will tell you I'll how we run our
marriage or how our marriage works and why
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we think we are onto something here.
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But I think that both, I can
tell you one thing, we've both.
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Been in relationships before you got to
to keep God first place that we were.
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I think we were different people.
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I was more stubborn. I wasn't realistic.
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I think about marriage and a
strong relationship. I think,
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I mean, I know. I believe
you're still stubborn. Stop.
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You are the stubborn one.
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Okay.
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Okay. Okay. So for me, okay, you
are stubborn. If you want to go,
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go down that path, you're.
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More stubborn than I'm.
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I get annoyed and I just want to feel
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like I,
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I have a lot of load on my
shoulders and I just want
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help and I want to feel
like I matter for you.
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On the other hand, you're just
stubborn and you like to win.
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And I'll just give you that
because I'm exhausted. You could.
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Win. You can win win.
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Every time. I don't care.
But thank you for the.
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Endorse endorsement. I appreciate
that. I do like to win.
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Accountability sometimes, but what
I'm saying, okay, back in the past,
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you're right. I was spoiled.
I thought marriage was easy.
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I thought you get married and this is it.
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I didn't realize how
much work went into it.
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And I think that in that
relationship in the past,
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I think we just threw in the towel not
knowing what actually went into marriage.
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I was young, and I
think you too with your.
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Situation. Yeah.
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Your engagement or whatever.
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I don't think you realized how much.
Well, both of you, whatever, whoever,
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whoever's fault it was. Marriage
isn't easy. No, that's easy.
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Let's just put that out there.
I think everybody listening
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can acknowledge.
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If your marriage, you can relate for sure.
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It's not easy.
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There's a lot of work and love
and care and sacrifice that
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goes into it.
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But if you put God first and
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you feel the, for Dan and I,
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we experienced and we
saw miracles firsthand.
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And I think, how do you not
know when you have a child?
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How do you not you
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not know God?
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How do you not see that God is
responsible for that miracle?
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I think when my baby took my first breath,
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that I took my first breath as a mother,
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I became a different person.
And that was a miracle.
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I've never felt that kind of love.
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And to know that we have to
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work so hard
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to never let that little baby down.
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Now we got more babies and
I'd like to have even more.
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If God, hold on, hold on. If
God bless us. Hold on, hold on.
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How could you not? Those
kids want more babies.
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Whatever God has planned for.
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Us. Have you seen those two kids in there?
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They're angels.
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They're my squeaky pee
bees. They're great kids.
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But what I'm saying is just
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if you understand,
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I can't even put it into words, but
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you have to commit.
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You have to shave off the people that
you just see. When you're close to God,
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you just see things in a different
light. I haven't drank for eight years.
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I've dedicated my life
to the kids in nursing,
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and I don't miss a drink. Hi, baby girl.
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Thank you. I need water. You need
water? Okay. Give me a few seconds. No,
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no.
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You know what the truth is? If for us,
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the fat has just come off,
it's come away from our life.
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We keep God first place, but.
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We pray. We pray over each other.
We pray over the marriage. Our kids,
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our children, pray over us.
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Dan and I were having a hard
time when you were building the
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business. I mean, you are in a different,
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you have a huge thing
going on right now. Huge.
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You're a part of something so big, so big,
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like UFC, and you are what?
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It's just everything is going great right
now. But I mean a lot of it's still a.
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Lot of work. Also been,
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you were in a bad position where you
had to go in Andy, mommy, stop talking.
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Why?
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Oh, she wants to get, okay. Okay. Okay.
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Thank you for that. Well,
this podcast is gone now.
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Can you hear me? Can you? I can
darling. I can hear you. Yes.
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I just want to say that when you have
people like that in your life and they
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haven't, see,
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we've been lucky enough to shave that
fat off and we don't have that situation.
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But can you imagine this newlywed couple
who's got a new baby and has got a new
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business and they have one
of 'em. Maybe the girl,
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the wife's got a divorced friend
who's talking about how great it
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was that she got to go out last night
and you ought to come out with us
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sometime. It's okay. You don't
have to stay out all night,
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just come out for a little bit. And
then those conversations, oh yeah,
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my husband used to do that. Or these.
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Conversations about arguments and then
I'll call and all that other stuff.
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And you're going through a hard
time. So you're in this place,
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you're going through a lot and
vent, need to feel like you vent,
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which we know this. We know you
never vent to your friends. Okay?
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Never, never vent to friends, family.
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My mom was a different person because
my mom was old school European,
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and I'd want her on my side.
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I'd call her and I'd venting
because I was frustrated.
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But she would call me out.
She would hold me accountable.
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And those are the people that you
want in your life. She would say.
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And then she would say.
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Well, is about me.
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Put yourself in his shoes. He's
probably stressed out. Yeah,
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she would be.
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About me.
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What? Your.
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Mom loves me.
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No, no. She was on your side,
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but she would want not
your side, but she would.
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Of course she was on my side.
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She.
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Loves me.
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Not always though. Well,
but she would also.
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Call you. She actually called me. I
heard her call me names in Hungarian.
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I know what she was saying, but.
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She doesn't swear. But she
was just very frustrated.
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With stuff. Absolutely.
No, I've heard the words.
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I know what words she was
saying. Yeah, she was totally.
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They weren't hardcore swears.
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They were just innocent frustrat.
But I knew it was going on.
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But I get that your mom
holds you accountable,
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and those are the type of friends
you want in your life too.
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If you're in a situation where you're
doing something you're not supposed to be
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doing or heading down that path,
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you need somebody in your life
that's going to hold you accountable.
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Somebody who's going to say, Hey,
look, you got, what are you doing?
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What are you doing? Your wife's
at home. She's waiting for you.
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And you got to be that
person for your friends too.
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If they're getting out of line,
you need to hold them accountable.
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I promise you. I promise you,
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they will appreciate it in the moment.
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Most guys want to be good guys.
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And if they get called on their stuff,
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if somebody calls 'em out and your
guys are good friends and you call
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'em out on their stuff, if they're
getting a little sideways like, oh,
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check this girl out, or whatever they're
saying or whatever they're doing,
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and you call 'em on their stuff,
they're going to appreciate that.
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They're going to respect you for.
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That. I think so.
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Yeah. And you want those type
of friends in your life too.
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If you say something or get a
little sideways or whatever,
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you just don't even want friends that
are going to, and not that you should,
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and you should never do that,
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but you want friends that
are going to lift you up that
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are not going to.
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Guilt.
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Trip you on time.
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You haven't called me and when's
the last time we went out?
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And those type of friends.
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Or even the friends
that try to isolate you,
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let's go hunting or let's
go on a guy's trip. I mean,
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that's not for me. When my
girlfriends were like, oh, I'm.
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Not a hundred percent, we don't
do that. Can you come out with,
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I'm not a hundred percent against.
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It. I'm just, I'm not into that
anymore. I don't even want to, Dan,
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you are my best friend.
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I don't want to go hang out and go to
the bar and do all these things best that
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just don't, don't interest
me. My, I'm not into that.
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I don't want that either.
I just want to be with you.
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And listen, I can't.
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But I'm not against it. Can't
speak. Somebody wants to do that.
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I don't want to tell 'em that you
are a bad husband because you do.
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That. No, they're good guys. And
they call you out and say, Hey,
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let's go on this thing where we're going
to better ourselves as men and this and
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that. But if it's just to go
drinking and partying and like, Hey,
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let's go hang out and drink and
hunt or I don't know, whatever,
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that's not cool. But I'm
just a very, I love to learn.
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I love to better myself and
I want to leave a legacy.
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Nothing is more important than
that. But for me right now,
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I'm on this trip where I,
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I love Jesus.
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God has this plan for me,
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and I know that the plan
is to pour everything I
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can into my husband and my kids
and nothing makes me happier.
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And if someone wants to
take me away from my family,
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those people aren't really
for me. And that's the thing.
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I have this best friend that lives in
another country and we don't see each
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other every day. We barely, actually,
00:19:15
I think I haven't seen her
for maybe a couple years,
00:19:18
I want to say now a couple
years, but she's my best friend.
00:19:22
But she does check in with me and
we'll leave each other messages.
00:19:26
And she is,
00:19:31
and always has been my best friend.
00:19:33
She'd always hold me accountable
even before I had kids.
00:19:37
But I knew that she's tiny
and she's gorgeous and she's
00:19:41
classy, but she would kick someone's
butt for me back in the day.
00:19:46
But.
00:19:46
What I like about her though,
she's strong, she can,
00:19:50
and this is how I am
with my best friends too,
00:19:53
is that if we haven't seen each other
in two years and we finally see each
00:19:56
other, that's like.
00:19:58
Not even a moment went
by. Just everything.
00:20:02
And it's like a soulmate.
Everything picks. And
00:20:07
that's a friend. That's
a blessing from God.
00:20:10
It's like everything picks
up where it left off.
00:20:14
And then when they send you the messages,
00:20:16
you really feel the love from behind
them. There's no guilt like, Hey,
00:20:20
why haven't you called me?
00:20:22
We're both busy moms and we're both
pouring into our children and our husbands
00:20:26
and our families and trying
to do the best for them.
00:20:30
But I know we both love God,
00:20:32
and I just know that she's
a good person. I feel it,
00:20:37
and I feel the care, and I
feel the love. And sometimes
00:20:42
not putting pressure on someone just
to hang out or be with you or make them
00:20:46
feel bad. I just almost want to avoid
people like that altogether. I mean,
00:20:51
I do. I do. Period.
00:20:52
End the story. Those are the type of
friends. If you're going to have friends,
00:20:54
those are the type of friends
you want in your life.
00:20:56
Those are the type of friends
that you want around you.
00:20:58
And they send you articles. Well,
00:21:00
she sends me articles on
the things I'm going through
00:21:05
on and vice versa. We
just, anyway, whatever.
00:21:08
And the ones that are going
to lift you up when you're,
00:21:12
because if they're like that
when it comes to this stuff,
00:21:16
when it comes to relationships
and marriages and family,
00:21:21
and they are championing you when it
comes to that stuff, they're going to and.
00:21:25
Celebrating your wins.
00:21:26
Those are going to be the same
ones that celebrate your wins.
00:21:28
That's exactly what I was going to say.
00:21:29
Watch the people that watch
how they act when you get the
00:21:34
little wins and the successes in
life, are they cheering you on?
00:21:39
Are they cheering your husband on?
Are they cheering your wife on?
00:21:42
You got to watch for that.
And if you don't see that,
00:21:46
I was just listening to someone
talking about this the other day,
00:21:50
and she was saying how she
cleans house every year because
00:21:55
every year she has some
kind of accomplishment,
00:21:58
and if her people aren't
cheering her on and celebrating
00:22:03
the wins.
00:22:04
They're gone. So I just looked
this up right now. I was like,
00:22:07
I know I heard something about this
and I was just telling you about it,
00:22:09
and you said you hadn't heard about it.
00:22:11
In a 1997 Gallup poll done by the
National Association of Marriage
00:22:16
Enhancement showed that the
divorce made divorce rate among
00:22:20
couples who pray together regularly is
00:22:25
one out of 1 couples.
00:22:30
That's less than 1%.
00:22:33
Wow. That's awesome.
00:22:34
So if you want to talk about
putting yourself in a good position,
00:22:37
because the national divorce
rates are basically 50 50 right
00:22:42
now. And of course if you live in Laguna,
00:22:45
it's like 70 30.
00:22:49
So if you want to give yourself the
best chance, that's what you do.
00:22:53
You pray over your spouse and you
keep God first place in your marriage,
00:22:59
and that's how you keep that
marriage together. And the truth is,
00:23:02
and on a good note, and I'll
say this on a good note,
00:23:05
is that it actually works
the other way around too,
00:23:08
that if you keep good people around you,
00:23:11
have you ever noticed that when
they get married, everybody,
00:23:15
all your friends get married at the
same time. And when they have babies,
00:23:19
everybody's having kids at the same time.
00:23:21
It's like when you have
those people in your life,
00:23:23
when you keep good people around you,
good things will happen around you.
00:23:27
Hundred percent stronger
marriages will happen.
00:23:29
Around you. And that's the thing, when.
00:23:30
You have a friend.
00:23:31
Choose to hang around.
00:23:32
Lifting you up about your marriage and
saying if you are going through hard
00:23:36
times or something,
00:23:38
not that you're spilling the beans about
what's going on in your relationship,
00:23:43
but if you have a friend, they know
when you're going through something,
00:23:47
they know when it's a little bit hard.
00:23:48
And that's the thing is just check
in with your friends once in a while.
00:23:51
Just like my girlfriend,
she checks in with me,
00:23:54
but she would never say a negative thing
00:23:58
about you or my marriage. And
I know that I can trust her,
00:24:04
but she always checks
in, how are you doing?
00:24:06
And she has this way of
lifting me because I tend
00:24:11
to,
00:24:14
I don't like to talk about my problems.
I don't ever want to be a Debbie Downer.
00:24:19
I'll never talk about it. I
don't like to do that. No.
00:24:22
But you've gone through a lot in the last.
00:24:23
Few years. I've gone through a lot,
00:24:25
but I don't like to let people know
because I want to be the person
00:24:30
that comes out of it. So
I don't ever like to, but.
00:24:32
She knew what you were going through.
00:24:34
She knew and she could
imagine anybody. It just, I,
00:24:39
yeah, it makes me emotional.
00:24:41
She's got a really beautiful
heart and she just like,
00:24:44
it's weird because
sometimes God connects to
00:24:50
God, speaks through people,
00:24:52
and you may have this day that you're
maybe going through pain or medical
00:24:57
stuff, and all of a sudden
someone reaches out and says, Hey,
00:25:01
how are you doing? Hey,
00:25:02
I found this article and they
hate you at the right time.
00:25:06
That's God speaking through them
because they're close to God too.
00:25:10
So you want to keep yourself
around couples that are
00:25:14
championing their marriage and
they're pouring into their kids,
00:25:18
just the people that you want
to be like and you champion them
00:25:23
back, vice versa, back and forth.
00:25:26
Absolutely. And guys,
when you go into marriage,
00:25:28
you have to go in with the
idea that you're not leaving.
00:25:32
You can't walk into a marriage with one
foot in and one foot out of the bathtub.
00:25:36
You've got to.
00:25:36
Work.
00:25:36
Hard. It's going to be hard.
00:25:40
God loves marriage and the devil
does it. The devil hates marriage.
00:25:44
He'll come at you in a.
00:25:45
Way. He'll find a way to get at
you when you're at your lowest.
00:25:50
He's going to find a way to drag
you down when you're not ready.
00:25:54
He's going to put people in your life
that shouldn't be there that are going to
00:25:57
drag you down. And
that's why I think that,
00:26:02
and I believe that if you keep God first
place in your marriage and you are in
00:26:06
your marriage for good, you
have both feet in your marriage,
00:26:10
there's no walking out of this marriage,
00:26:11
there's nothing that's going to
take you out of this marriage.
00:26:14
You've just reserved yourself to the
fact that those hard times are something
00:26:19
that you're going to get through.
00:26:19
You're going to weather that storm
and you're going to get through it,
00:26:23
and you're going to be
better because of it.
00:26:25
And that's because you're
constantly trying to get better.
00:26:28
You're constantly praying
00:26:32
for the power, the energy,
00:26:37
for the knowledge,
00:26:38
for whatever it takes to get through
those trying times that you're having in
00:26:43
your marriage. And you'll.
00:26:45
Come up from the other side.
Well, we going through side, well,
00:26:46
we were going a hard time,
00:26:47
and as I was saying is that
the kids were even praying
00:26:52
you were gone so early in the
morning to super late at night,
00:26:56
and I don't think we both realized what
you were getting into because you do
00:27:01
consulting. And that's what
I thought it was going to be.
00:27:04
I didn't think you were going to have
to try to build a company from the floor
00:27:09
up and deal with all these
problems. I mean, right now,
00:27:13
you're so blessed. You have this,
you're doing what you need to be doing.
00:27:17
You're at a different time of your life.
00:27:19
You're not starting a business from
scratch. The infant tapout days are done,
00:27:24
and it was worse than that. And I was
just like, you got to be kidding me.
00:27:29
See,
00:27:29
I saw you maybe five minutes a day
in the kids for an entire year,
00:27:34
and we would pray over you every single
day. And at the end when I felt like,
00:27:39
I can't do this anymore. This
isn't what I signed up for.
00:27:43
Well, it became just.
00:27:43
For weekends, then God
answered the prayer.
00:27:46
I was just going through
so much medically.
00:27:50
I was in a strange place. Nobody
was checking in on me. Gosh,
00:27:53
even when my mom passed away,
00:27:56
your fricking people that you
worked with didn't even send flat.
00:28:00
It was just a weird situation.
00:28:04
But all of a sudden,
00:28:06
God opened the door to bigger and
better things where this is the
00:28:10
consulting that you were used to.
00:28:13
You do the calls and that's what you do.
00:28:18
God will, everybody's going to go
through stuff, but God is going.
00:28:22
To, but God will close doors that are
meant to be closed. If are close to him,
00:28:26
he will end it and he
will open the right doors.
00:28:29
Absolutely. I believe that
with everything in my heart.
00:28:33
So if you guys are
going through something,
00:28:36
just know that there's always
peaks and valleys in every
00:28:41
relationship and everybody's
going through something hard.
00:28:44
I know with this Instagram life,
00:28:48
you can scroll through Instagram and
see all these marriages that look like
00:28:51
they're perfect and they're just not.
Everybody goes through hard times. I mean,
00:28:55
everybody's going through situations.
We all have our own stuff, including us,
00:29:00
and I think that we're always
excited to be better people.
00:29:05
I think I've never been in a place
in my life where I was more excited
00:29:10
to understand you better
so that I understand
00:29:15
myself and difficult
understanding relationships.
00:29:19
I's D, how do you understand?
00:29:21
Because I understand. I'm
kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
00:29:24
I understand what's going on with you,
and it helps me understand like, geez,
00:29:28
geez, Louise. Is this me
or is this me or is this,
00:29:32
am I crazy? Or what's going on
here? Yes. And then I realize, no,
00:29:37
women sometimes just do
this. They just do this,
00:29:41
and you're just got to deal with it.
00:29:43
It's like if you have both feet
in the bathtub and you just know,
00:29:47
you're just like, okay,
00:29:49
just buckle up because
you just have to deal.
00:29:53
With this. I just want to be
seen and I want to be loved,
00:29:55
and I want to be understood,
and sometimes I need some help.
00:29:59
Sometimes I love it. I
feel like you're the best.
00:30:04
If your load is big, I want to
help you. Or if my load is big,
00:30:09
then I just want you to help me.
And I don't want you to feel like,
00:30:14
oh, it's woman's work. You were a little.
00:30:18
Bit, I know you wanted me to
mop the floors. I was like,
00:30:23
why was that such a
big deal? Because, but.
00:30:25
That's your pride or your ego. I don't.
00:30:27
Know. Something weird. No, no.
It wasn't that at all. But.
00:30:29
My European family, they
cooked together. Okay.
00:30:32
I'm sorry. They cleaned
together. I apologized to, but.
00:30:35
I think this is what you need to look
at it, and you've never cooked with me,
00:30:39
but I would like to have you cook
with me because Daniel's interested in
00:30:43
cooking,
00:30:44
and I just want him to be able
to not have to lean into a
00:30:49
woman to cook for him. I don't want
him to ever grow up and say, oh,
00:30:53
I need to be with just the first
girl I could locked down because I
00:30:58
don't know how to cook. I want
him to, I get it, be empowered,
00:31:02
and I want him to be able to
absolutely have a nice clean home.
00:31:05
I want to teach him all the
things that my brother knew.
00:31:10
My brother, when my mom was working late,
00:31:12
sometimes we weren't always
in the store with her,
00:31:15
but he would cook beautiful
steak dinners, paprika, goulash,
00:31:19
chika, paprika,
00:31:21
all these Hungarian foods. He knew
the recipes and she taught us how to
00:31:25
cook at a very young age.
00:31:27
Cabbage rolls everything because she
wanted nutrition was really important
00:31:32
to her. And cooking from scratch
was really important to her.
00:31:35
We had beautiful skin while everybody
else had big pimples and stuff
00:31:40
in school, but because she
made everything from scratch,
00:31:42
somehow we bypassed that
situation, thank goodness.
00:31:47
But anyway, he was nourishing me.
00:31:52
And I think that that's the thing is
I don't want you to feel like, oh,
00:31:55
I'm doing women's work,
00:31:56
but let's be proud if we are nourishing
00:32:01
our children and helping
them to be their best.
00:32:05
And strong. I help the.
00:32:05
House a lot. No, you do. You do. I, but
I just feel like there was some kind.
00:32:10
Of, it was pullback. It was the moment.
00:32:11
Maybe because you were the, it was the.
00:32:13
Moment.
00:32:13
Guy.
00:32:14
Was No, no, no, no redneck,
no like tough guy. No,
00:32:19
we just got.
00:32:19
Manly.
00:32:20
Man. I just wanted to hire a housekeeper.
00:32:25
I don't even just,
00:32:26
I think watching my mom
being so proud, I am proud.
00:32:32
I want to do those things myself,
and I want my kids to see, yes,
00:32:36
we have a beautiful home, but I
take care of it myself. Myself.
00:32:39
It's a whole nother podcast. I get it.
00:32:42
I get it. We can do that
podcast too. But guys,
00:32:46
I just want to let you know that listen,
keep God first place in your marriage.
00:32:50
Know that you control your own destiny.
00:32:54
These statistics are fine,
but at the end of the day.
00:32:57
Your mindset, you control.
00:32:59
Your destiny.
00:32:59
You know what you want in life. If you.
00:33:01
Want your marriage.
00:33:01
To work, don't let
anything anyone sway you.
00:33:05
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Couldn't be better said.
00:33:08
I come from a broken marriage.
Something went wrong because my mom,
00:33:13
as I said, very honest,
she said, 27 years,
00:33:17
your father was the best family man I've
00:33:22
ever come across. And
then something happened.
00:33:26
He started hanging out
with a crowd and something
00:33:30
happened. And it's sad
because it was hard for us,
00:33:34
and I know that my
brother that passed away,
00:33:37
if my parents were together,
00:33:40
he wouldn't have had to feel like he
took on this position to be the father
00:33:45
figure,
00:33:46
to want to bring in extra money by
taking this construction job and
00:33:51
passing away tragically by
accident. Just by accident.
00:33:56
And I know things would've
been different, maybe.
00:34:00
I mean, I don't know. I just
have to trust God and just be so,
00:34:04
so grateful that I had 'em for
the years that I had 'em for.
00:34:07
We never fought one time. Do you
know that? Yeah, I've told you that.
00:34:11
I think I tell the kids
that too. But anyway.
00:34:14
I feel very blessed that my parents
are still married today and that that's
00:34:19
nice. I have that because I think it
gave me a north star for my marriage.
00:34:24
I said, if I ever got married,
I was never getting a divorce.
00:34:27
I would fight for this marriage and do
whatever it took to make sure that this
00:34:32
worked out. And whether we had,
00:34:38
I'm always willing to go to
counseling or whatever. If I'm wrong,
00:34:42
I want to be better. I want to
find, don't look at me like that.
00:34:46
You hate being.
00:34:46
Wrong. I know I hate being
wrong. You always willing to be.
00:34:48
Doesn't mean I don't want to be
better. I just want to not be wrong to,
00:34:52
I want to be better, want to
better, want to be better, want us.
00:34:54
To better. And I want everyone out
there to want to be better too.
00:34:58
And please, please, please, just
don't get swayed. Don't just
00:35:04
in your heart what you need to do and
just God will lead you in the right.
00:35:09
Direction. Keep God first place.
00:35:11
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00:35:15
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