EP 171 Don’t Talk About it, Be About it! Your Children are Depending On You!
Join hosts Ildiko Ferenczi and Dan Caldwell on the Pretty and Punk Podcast for a compelling exploration of balancing entrepreneurship and creating a thriving family life. In this episode, Ildiko and Dan jump into all the challenges of raising children amidst building and advising multimillion-dollar businesses. They share their personal experiences and insights on the importance of integrating family into every aspect of their entrepreneurial journey.
The discussion opens with a profound reflection on the value of time spent with family and the intentional effort to embed life lessons into everyday interactions. The hosts recount recent travel experiences where they combined business obligations with family involvement, illustrating how such integrations can offer real-world business education to their children and it reinforced how great everything really works together.
Ildiko and Dan also highlight the critical role of children in the future of entrepreneurship. They discuss how exposing children to business environments from a young age can foster resilience, curiosity, and create a deeper understanding of how and why it’s so important to learn these crucial skills.
This episode is not just about their stories but also features practical advice for other entrepreneurial parents. The hosts share tips on how to effectively involve children in business meetings, decision-making processes, and understanding the bigger picture of the parent entrepreneur’s journey.
Quoting John F. Kennedy, who famously said, “Children are the world’s most valuable resource and its best hope for the future,” They remind entrepreneurial parents how they can use their daily work to teach children about resilience, leadership, marketing, and the importance of hard work.
Tune in to this episode of the Pretty and Punk Podcast to hear all this and more with Dan and Ildiko as they manage the complexities of leading a successful businesses and raising future leaders. Their stories and the life hacks they share from other entrepreneurs facing similar struggles provide rich lessons on success, love, raising kids, and everything in between.
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Your family, your children,
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and I hear about it with
the people that we talk to.
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They're just in this different place in
their life where they're pouring into
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their family and they
understand how precious it is.
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And that we have these young years
where some people just want to
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fly by it because it is
difficult and it is a challenge,
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but you embrace it because
when you can selfishly pour
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into these children and
give them the tools for
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life, I'm talking about yes,
your babies, your toddlers,
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they are capable of so much more and the
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more that we pour into them,
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you just see that you are
really leaving a legacy.
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No. Oh, that's better, right, babe?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. She founded an
architectural concrete company.
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He.
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Founded.
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A hundred million
dollars clothing company.
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She took the world by storm
as a social media star. He.
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Took the world by storm as a
famous serial entrepreneur.
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Together we started a business.
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And had babies.
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Now we're figuring out
the best ways to do both.
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Join us as we learn from other
entrepreneurs going through the same life.
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Struggles as they share their
life. Hacks about success, love.
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Kids, and everything in between. Children.
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Children are the worlds most valuable
resource and it's best hope for the
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future. Quote by John F. Kennedy.
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Children are our future. Teach them well.
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Let them lead the way. Show
them are the beauty they possess
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inside. Quote by Whitney Houston.
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Welcome to this episode of
the Pretty Punk Podcast.
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I am Dan Caldwell and
I'm here with my cohost.
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You the co Stop.
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It. I was going to give you this great
introduction and then you cut me off.
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Well, because I thought you
were going to see my name. No,
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I had this great introduction plan was.
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Okay, what.
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Is it? Share it now. Now it's done.
Well just give it now. It's done.
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No, it's not done.
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No, you messed.
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It. Be positive. Don't be. So what is it?
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No, I was just going to say
all these great things about.
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You. So say it now.
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No, well, I can't say mother's.
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Stay around the corner and let.
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Me hear. That's why I was going
to say all this. So you're.
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Not going to say it.
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Now. I was going to
say amazing mother who,
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they broke the mold
after they made her and
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now she's my beautiful, and I had all
these other great things. But you.
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It's okay. You can stay
here for next time.
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Let's talk about the show.
Okay. So what is this show.
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About? Well,
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we just got back from this great
trip and I think we were just looking
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back on the trip and
just hoping and wishing
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everybody to be able to do some.
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We brought our kids on the trip and I
think what was important was that the
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whole time, Daniel,
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the whole point of the bigger part of
the trip was that Daniel had a speech
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planned. So he had a speech that he
was going to be speaking at an event,
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but bigger than that we also,
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we just happened to have a
fight that was going on, but.
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Before.
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That, in the same place. But
before that, but before that,
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So the truth is,
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Daniel had this big speech
planned and we could have just
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taken Daniel to his speech.
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And then flown home and
then just you and I gone.
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To the, or we could have,
we were in California,
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we could have left the kids with my
parents and then we could have went to the
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fight and enjoyed this night of fights.
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But what we were talking
to Daniel and Destiny
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about how the BKFC,
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how it's building and it's growing
as a combat sports company and
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were owners in the BKFC.
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And so just being a part
of the growth of that.
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I watched how UFC grew when we first
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became a part of that and we became the
longest standing sponsors of the UFC.
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I think we were 14 or 15 years.
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And now I see that same
thing again with the BKFC.
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And we have these conversations
with our kids explaining to them
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these parts, how b KFC's advertising.
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Behind the scenes, and I
don't want to cut you off,
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but I don't want to leave this part
out. So when Daniel and Destiny,
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we have the gift of
being able to work from
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home. So when we have
business phone calls,
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we really like to have the kids around.
Sometimes there's some background noise,
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but most of our friends have kids and
they understand the people that we
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surround ourselves with
have the same mindset.
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Most of them work with their kids and
include their kids in their businesses.
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So I want the kids around for my
phone calls. And this has been hard,
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a little bit of a struggle for Dan
because he gets nervous if the kids
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act up or they're a little bit loud,
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but it really hasn't
been affecting anything.
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I wouldn't say nervous
is the right word, but.
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Well, you want to seem
professional. But the thing.
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We're on conference calls with 10
people on a conference call big deals.
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And I don't want them being too loud
during the conference call when other
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people are.
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Speaking of out of respect. Out
of respect. And I understand that,
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but at the same time,
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I don't want them to miss the
language that goes on because
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whether you think the
children are listening or not,
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they are listening. They're
listening to the background noise.
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So you could have something
that's totally worthless and not
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giving.
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Cartoons. They're not
learning anything from,
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or they're listening to
our words and how we.
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Post.
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Conversations and Negoti.
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Talk about marketing.
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They're listening to the
designing of the T-shirts.
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They're listening to Celebr,
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the marketing conversations being
how we're going to treat them,
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how they are going to be treated,
what the arena, the theater,
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the theater, the negotiations that
are going on in the background,
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the theater, what it's going to look
like, what it's going to be like.
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The picture is painted. So for Dan and I,
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it's very important for
us to bring the kids
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into those conversations so that
they can see what happens behind the
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scenes. And now on,
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we decided to drive and do
a road trip rather than fly.
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And Daniel understands all the
stuff that has been going on,
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and Dan and I are driving,
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he's looking out the window
saying there's A-B-K-F-C
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billboard.
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So he knows all about the
behind the scenes stuff that
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was going on that you
were talking about with.
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Yeah, these billboards are going up.
And he heard that and now he sees it.
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And I think we were just, because
we talk about it on the show,
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that's what this whole
show is about. It's about.
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It's a little bit of a dig.
All pieces working together,
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all don't talk about it, be about it.
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And I'm so grateful that I
was included in this language
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growing up as a child, and I
wanted the same for our children.
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And it took a minute for me to
convince Dan about the story.
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And we did a weird thing with Daniel.
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He didn't know about your
background with Tapout.
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He didn't know that until he older
because I wanted him to understand.
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I really wanted to protect his innocence.
I want to protect his innocence.
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And it's quite a sport. There's
punching, there's blood,
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there's all kinds of stuff going on.
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But I waited till he was old enough
and then he now understands your tapout
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story. But I never want him to
feel entitled. And in this journey,
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he's included. He's a part of it.
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So everything he has
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in his life he works for.
And we don't
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spoil them at Christmas time,
birthdays, we get them four gifts.
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And they're so happy with that
sometimes because we've taught them to
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respect and treat their things
with love and care and so
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special. Sometimes they don't even open
all their presents. Isn't that crazy?
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But anyway, a little bit off topic,
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but I love what we've done with
our family. You can take it,
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you can leave it. I mean,
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I know there's a part of me that just
wants to spoil them rotten at Christmas,
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but I have to pull back because I feel
like that might not be the thing for
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their journey. But.
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I just want to say,
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I think the whole point of
this was is that we were proud
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that we had been talking
about this on our podcast.
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And we tell people, everybody that when
we talk about our podcast or what we do,
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we always tell people about
what the whole experiment is.
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The experiment is we do this as a family.
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We're interjecting our
kids into our business.
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We're interjecting our kids into
these conversations that we're having.
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And we see a lot of people, and
a lot of people talk about that.
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We see other podcasters and
influencers talking about it.
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And we feel like maybe since we kind
of brought this to the forefront two
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years ago, more and more
people are talking about it.
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But many times you don't see
those people actually doing it.
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We see them, we hear them saying it,
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but they're not actually doing it.
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They're not bringing their
kids to their meetings.
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Meetings. It feels risky. It
does. It feels risky. I mean,
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what if our son has never
had a temper tantrum,
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but our little girl, she gets
quite passionate sometimes.
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And that could be a make it or break
it moment. Truthfully. It could be.
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It could be, but it hasn't been.
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And I'm so glad that we have
the courage to push through
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and also truly explain what things go on.
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Because Daniel,
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we could have not shared and brought
him to these fights and he just sees
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the, oh, what is it?
Give him another shot.
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Well, it's just been about the
fight, but he made it more than that.
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We made it more than just the fight. It.
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Was so much more because we explain
even he understands the fighter's
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journeys and he gravitates
towards platinum.
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Mike Perry,
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because he had the opportunity
to speak with him and he
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finds out, he asks questions,
do you have children?
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And he shared with him that he does.
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He has a little child and a baby,
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and he does this for his children.
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This is his way to go out
and put bread on the table.
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And Daniel understands that.
And when it goes to the fights,
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he's yelling, do it for your babies.
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Win for the babies.
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I don't think he identified
with Mike because one,
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Mike was so great with him when he sat
down with him and talked to him. Oh,
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so wonderful. Yes. But on top
of that, that he had kids,
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even though he didn't meet
his kids, he had kids.
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And I think Daniel just identified
with that and that connection.
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And so now whenever he goes to the fights
and Mike happened to be fighting it,
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both fights that he went
to for the BKFC. So he just
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kept asking, where's Mike? Where's Mike?
Is Mike fighting yet? Is Mike fighting?
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Yet? We couldn't find him.
So he had that connection.
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And then I think it was exciting too,
when we were coming through the door,
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one of the execs at the BKFC had,
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there was a big announcement, there was.
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A big surprise.
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Well, Conor McGregor was going to be an
owner, one of the owners that be gifts.
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Right? But nobody in the arena knew it.
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And this exec got down on his
me, nobody anywhere knew it. No,
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it was a big secret.
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He got down on his knees and
came eye level the Daniel,
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because as I said, the people
that we surround ourselves with,
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they have the same mindset
and they treat him with such,
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you don't learn this stuff in
school. And well, just about every.
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Meeting that I'd ever had with that
guy Daniel. Daniel has been there.
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So he knows Daniel intimate.
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So even before us, and
we knew this surprise,
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but before showing us the video, he said,
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everybody's going to see this video
tonight and I want you to be the first one
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to see it. He got down at eye
level and he played the video.
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There was a lead up of Connor McGregor.
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He had a big surprise and there
was a little bit of a hint.
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And then the next video that they showed,
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he had taken ownership in the BKFC,
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which is huge News
Daniel's just so excited.
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But just taking it in like,
wow, that's a great move.
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There's this child so excited about this.
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He understands the business of it
and the reasoning for it, which.
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Is so cool. And we explained
to him what that meant.
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Conor McGregor coming into the
fight, what the bigger picture is,
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not just that he's an owner,
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but the reach that Conor McGregor
has as probably one of the
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most well-known fighters
in combat sports today.
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Seemingly people know Conor McGregor and
they may have never watched him fight.
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That's how big he is. He's got 75
million followers on Instagram.
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I don't know what his other
social media platforms look like,
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but we explained that bigger idea
to Daniel so he would understand
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what the importance of that was, which.
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Is really a cool thing
to understand as a young
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child, to understand
those concepts. So anyway,
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it's just a business lesson.
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He got to see everything in
the painted picture in real
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life.
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We got to go through into the VIP
section that he was hearing about.
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He saw the theater. It
was a beautiful theater.
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Everything thing to see
the things that were
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talked about in real life is just so
special to share that with your little
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ones.
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So I guess basically this
is us sharing our story
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and what happened there so that you
can find a way to incorporate your
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children and maybe you
don't have a business,
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but my mother always
explained the background
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of everything that we did.
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So say you're going to
watch a monster truck show
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and then you explain how
the seats need to be filled.
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And when you get to the
show, whatever it may be,
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it could be a performance or Broadway
show. The seats are full. Well,
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what made that happen?
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Obviously the marketing and you can
explain all the behind the scenes
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stuff and the buildup.
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And then when they attend the
show or the performance or the
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monster truck show or wrestling
or whatever you're going to do,
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you can explain all that stuff.
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And if they see that the
seats are half empty,
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you see that something bad, something.
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Well, they didn't do something
right, something and wasn't right.
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There's a financial piece to all of it.
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And then also marketing marketing's
one of the most important things.
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If you can't market, you're not going
to bring anybody to your business.
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You may not be in business,
maybe you're not an entrepreneur,
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but you can explain. But
maybe I think in the future,
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entrepreneurship is going to be
more important than it is today.
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And it's just getting more and more
important because a lot of these
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AI is taking over so much.
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So many of the jobs that might be
between AI and robotics and other
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things that are out there, computers,
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so many of those jobs are going to
be taken up by those positions or
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by that technology.
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And so those positions won't be available
and people are going to have to find
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other ways to create income and they're
going to create other businesses.
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Maybe it's some new form of
entertainment or maybe it's robots
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fighting. I don't know. Who knows
what it's going to be? Oh my gosh.
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But they're going to
have to be entrepreneurs.
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A lot of 'em are going
to be entrepreneurs.
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And so teaching your kids how
marketing works and how the
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financial piece of
creating a business works,
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all those things are
going to be so important.
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Falling through.
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With. And whether you're
an entrepreneur or not,
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you can still teach those to your kids.
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You can still explain how all
of that works behind the scenes.
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And if you are an entrepreneur,
I challenge you. Just try it.
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I know it's going to feels risky, feel
comfortable. It's going to feel hard.
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It's going to feel like it's
probably not a good idea,
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but people will respect you
and you will love having
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those conversations with your kids.
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And I think that's just this whole kind
of trip was just all those conversations
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put in one between Daniel's
speech that was, oh my gosh,
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absolutely unbelievable. I mean,
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I had an idea of how good it could be,
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and it was better than that just
because lots of concepts you work with.
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When Daniel's speaking, we work with
him a lot, practices every day he.
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Deserves. He deserves the result.
He deserved the connection.
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He deserved all the people
that cried from his message.
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He deserved all the pictures
that were taken after because
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he worked so hard. He worked every day.
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He works on his speeches or some
kind of poem or some kind of
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something. Every day he puts work into it.
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So to get the payoff of,
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I changed some lives today.
And when he was done, he said,
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I can't wait to get on stage again.
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Yeah, I did say that. When
did he say that? What part?
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Were we walking off stage or.
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We were sitting and we were
watching the rest of because Oh.
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That's where we were.
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Because.
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Watching the rest of the conference.
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Yeah, it was great. It was a mastermind.
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It was a high ticket audience mastermind
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type thing of entrepreneurs and really,
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really intelligent people.
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And to have him understand how much
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he moved the room and for these
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high caliber individuals
to come up and tell him
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that his eye contact was phenomenal,
00:20:31
that his movement was his connection.
00:20:32
People were posting that
on Instagram, tagging us,
00:20:36
and I think the whole, he
got total standing ovation.
00:20:40
Everybody jumped to their feet
all the time. He does it all time.
00:20:42
And then through the rest of the day,
00:20:44
everybody just kept running up to him
and giving him knuckles and telling him
00:20:48
what a great job he did and telling
them how they want that for their kids.
00:20:52
Just.
00:20:54
He ignited the fire. Every fire within.
00:20:56
People. I know he feels.
00:20:57
That. And that's the thing,
00:20:58
it's not because he had an agent,
00:21:02
acting agent at a very
young age. He snuck in,
00:21:07
he was supposed to be five
or four, I think it was five.
00:21:11
But at three years old, he
snuck into acting classes.
00:21:17
He told them that he was five years old,
but he was three. But because of his,
00:21:22
well.
00:21:22
We pushed him in there kind of a little
low. I mean, I say we helped him sneak.
00:21:26
In. I said, if he gets away with
it, they'll probably say no. I said,
00:21:31
they're probably going to say
no, but if he gets away with it,
00:21:34
then it was meant to be.
00:21:36
And he totally got away with it because
he was so good at memorizing the lines
00:21:40
and just bringing his own
little personality. Do.
00:21:44
You remember driving him to acting
class? And we'd tell Daniel,
00:21:46
you're five years old, tell him you're
five years old. No dadda. I'm three.
00:21:52
No, Daniel, you're five years old.
They won't let you go to this class.
00:21:56
If you say you're three,
you're five years old.
00:22:00
No dadda. I'm three. Okay.
00:22:04
But you have to say five for
this when you go into the class,
00:22:08
we'll have to post one. He loved the
class though. He had so much fun.
00:22:12
I still have some recordings from his
classroom and I still watch him here and
00:22:16
there.
00:22:16
I mean, what he turned into, as I say.
00:22:19
What was your favorite
part of the speech though?
00:22:21
Tell me what was your favorite part of
the speech? We were up on stage too.
00:22:25
We came up and introduced,
00:22:28
they spoke to us first and
kind of like in a panel.
00:22:32
And then Daniel got up and
he did his speech later.
00:22:36
And there were different parts of
it that were great for me, but.
00:22:40
Was your favorite. I love them all,
00:22:41
but I don't want to give it away because
this is his talk that he does all over.
00:22:45
I mean, you have to say.
00:22:47
What his words are.
00:22:48
What I love is that he's able to be
00:22:52
his, I can't,
00:22:55
he just has this sparkle
that just lifts my
00:23:00
soul.
00:23:00
But there's this part of the speech
where he has to transform into
00:23:05
this strong and powerful.
00:23:09
And I loved the
transformation and I loved his
00:23:14
movement and his eye connection.
00:23:17
His movement was incredible. That
to me, because we'd worked on that.
00:23:22
But when you don't have an audience,
00:23:24
it's really hard to convey it into words,
00:23:29
how to work with the audience.
00:23:32
How to.
00:23:32
Connect with.
00:23:33
The audience and your
legs. And let's be honest,
00:23:38
I've done a lot of acting,
but I always, sometimes, okay,
00:23:42
there's been moments where it's
been a challenging role and I
00:23:47
wonder,
00:23:48
or I'll imagine I'll have just this
little shoot of a thought or this
00:23:53
thought that shoots in,
what if my legs give out?
00:23:56
What if I get nervous and I
buckle and I fall? And I mean,
00:24:01
it always works out okay
and everything good happens,
00:24:05
but he doesn't get those thoughts.
00:24:08
Which is so.
00:24:08
Cool.
00:24:09
Yeah, he's so comfortable
with it. What if I.
00:24:10
Fall? What if.
00:24:11
I trip? What?
00:24:12
How about when everybody gave him the
standing ovation and he kind of just stood
00:24:16
there and took it all
in? He took it all in,
00:24:18
backs up and kind of like nods
his head a little bit. Like, Hey,
00:24:24
that's how I roll. That's me.
Yes. Yeah, thank you. Thank you.
00:24:29
That's how I roll.
00:24:30
And I asked him later, I said, what
were you thinking? And he goes,
00:24:34
I was just giving everybody love.
00:24:36
I could see he's looking
at everybody and just not a
00:24:39
nonverbal communication of love
00:24:44
and connection can Yeah.
00:24:48
Explain any other way.
00:24:49
We were enforcing that
when you are speaking that
00:24:53
everybody is to help
you through this speech.
00:24:57
When you look at somebody,
you'll see, find the person that.
00:25:01
Needs your.
00:25:01
Message, that talking to
you through their eyes.
00:25:04
They're receiving your message and
they're thanking you with their eyes
00:25:09
and talk to that person. Just look
right at him and talk to them and.
00:25:13
Then let.
00:25:13
Your, I didn't know if he would
grasp that so well, and he did.
00:25:17
You could tell I was watching each
person he was connecting with and I could
00:25:21
kind of see where he was looking at.
00:25:23
And then I looked down in the audience
and I saw that person who was connecting
00:25:28
with him crying, crying. Oh gosh.
00:25:30
And then he starts to walk to the other
side of the stage and he looking at
00:25:34
somebody else and he's
doing the same thing.
00:25:35
And it was so good for me because to
really watch that come through. Yeah.
00:25:40
We worked with them and he's got
great coaches too. But anyway,
00:25:45
I guess that's just something
that you can take for yourself.
00:25:50
Whatever it is, whatever it is,
00:25:53
every child has a different assignment
and you just pour into them.
00:25:57
And we really try to not make it about,
00:26:01
because he makes it very clear.
00:26:02
He doesn't want something
selfish for himself.
00:26:06
He wants to help the world.
00:26:08
And that's just crazy
to me that a little kid
00:26:13
is already thinking like
that. But I do believe, again,
00:26:17
that because we have those
types of friends and we
00:26:22
are at a different time
of our lives right now,
00:26:25
I feel ever since we've
had the children, it's,
00:26:29
it's a different just really family,
00:26:33
your family, your children.
00:26:36
And I hear about it with
the people that we talk to.
00:26:40
They're just in this different place
in their life where they're pouring
00:26:45
into their family and they understand how
precious it is. And that we have these
00:26:50
young years where some
people just want to fly by it
00:26:55
because it is difficult
and it is a challenge,
00:26:58
but you embrace it because
when you can selfishly pour
00:27:02
into these children and
give them the tools for
00:27:07
life, I'm talking about yes,
your babies, your toddlers,
00:27:11
they are capable of so much more.
00:27:16
I heard about it because I had a lot of
older friends that have had children and
00:27:20
the way that they poured into it and
the way that my mom poured into us,
00:27:25
but I couldn't,
00:27:27
I guess imagine it
until it happened to us.
00:27:31
And the more that we pour into them,
00:27:34
you just see that you are
really leaving a legacy
00:27:40
by being unselfish yourself.
00:27:43
I don't know.
00:27:43
How to put it.
00:27:44
Into words.
00:27:45
Your child has a God-given purpose
on this earth and I, they have an.
00:27:49
Assignment.
00:27:50
If what you introduce them to will
actually connect them with that purpose.
00:27:56
But I feel like somehow they
will find that purpose through
00:28:03
your introducing them to
the world and how it works.
00:28:06
So maybe it's not doing
exactly what you're doing.
00:28:10
Maybe they'll find out they want
to be graphic artists. They.
00:28:13
Pivot or.
00:28:13
Maybe they'll find out they
want to be pivot, pivot.
00:28:16
How many times have we pivoted.
00:28:17
Musicians or whatever? Who
knows what that's going to be?
00:28:21
But you have to have those conversations
with your kids. And right now,
00:28:25
I just feel like so many people are
wrapped up staring at their phones,
00:28:29
including ourselves.
00:28:31
We catch ourselves all the time and have
to put ourselves in check all the time.
00:28:35
Especially you being out there,
especially it's a wake up.
00:28:41
Really? Yes, yes. You just threw me.
00:28:44
You just dime me out on our podcast.
00:28:48
But people, what are you talking about?
00:28:50
But other people are struggling with
this. It's a struggle because need to,
00:28:53
it's.
00:28:54
A struggle for.
00:28:54
Everybody. You need to watch your
business. How is your marketing going?
00:28:58
How's the business going?
But then at the same time,
00:29:02
really do that inventory.
00:29:05
Make sure that you are not neglecting your
00:29:09
spouse, that I'm not neglecting
you. I'm not neglecting the kids.
00:29:14
And if I'm doing something
and you'll know, oh,
00:29:18
I've been on this a little too
long. Bring the kids into it.
00:29:23
Our children help.
00:29:24
Right now we're opening
up our podcast page,
00:29:29
the social media where
we're encouraging you guys,
00:29:33
send your stuff that's
doing well on your page
00:29:38
and we will share it
because what are we hitting
00:29:41
4.4 million people per month?
00:29:47
That is the biggest gift.
00:29:48
We're in a different time of our lives
where we want to give back by giving you
00:29:53
guys eyes.
00:29:54
So you guys are sending a bunch of stuff
and we're trying to go through it all.
00:29:57
We're having the kids help
us with what should we post?
00:30:02
Someone sent this, someone sent
that, someone sent this other.
00:30:05
So if it's funny and relatable for
00:30:10
parents, if it's heartfelt,
if it's a lesson,
00:30:13
if it's a business lesson, anything
like that we're going through.
00:30:18
I'm including the kids in it. I
don't want to get lost in it myself.
00:30:22
I'm trying to show them, well, what
do you think is going to go viral?
00:30:26
How can we help ourselves grow?
00:30:28
And also this other person
that sent us this material. So.
00:30:33
I think that's one of the quick hacks
that I have for everybody is that this is
00:30:37
the one thing that just including,
I've had to be mentally aware of.
00:30:43
Sometimes I'll find myself,
and we've had this discussion,
00:30:47
I'm in my phone a lot because
all my business is on my phone.
00:30:51
Every single thing we do is on our phone.
00:30:53
Every person that messages me or calls
me or texts me or whatever is on my
00:30:57
phone.
00:30:58
All the control of all of our Facebook
ads or our businesses or our Shopify's is
00:31:03
on our phone.
00:31:05
But what I've found myself doing
is to try to include the kids or
00:31:10
yourself is that when I'm looking
down and I'm looking at Shopify
00:31:14
and I'm looking at some
things that are going through,
00:31:18
I can look at my kids and I can tell them,
00:31:21
I can explain to 'em
what I'm doing right now.
00:31:22
And Destiny's so good at that. She'll
be like, I want to see. I want to.
00:31:26
See. So she.
00:31:28
Was definitely very interested.
I want to see, I'm just texting,
00:31:33
what did they say? What.
00:31:34
Are they doing? But that's
a great opportunity.
00:31:37
So because lots of times kids won't
ask, so you have to remember yourself.
00:31:42
Why don't I just explain
this whole m on a text
00:31:46
conversation with,
00:31:49
I was on the phone with the
founder of Reebok yesterday,
00:31:53
and this is a guy who founded
this billion dollar brand.
00:31:59
And I'm in this conversation, well,
00:32:02
I'm telling Daniel who I'm on a call with,
00:32:05
and he didn't totally grasp it why I was
on the call because I couldn't explain
00:32:10
everything, but I just told him to listen.
00:32:12
And then later I explained to him exactly
who this guy was and what he had done
00:32:16
and this brand, this amazing
brand that he had created,
00:32:22
and those are the opportunities we have
and that we need to take advantage of.
00:32:27
And it's a good lesson because he
can see the product and he hears this
00:32:32
other human on the other end,
00:32:34
and it just sounds like a normal human,
00:32:37
a normal person, and he
can see the conversations,
00:32:41
and I know he's never nervous
or he is never starstruck or any
00:32:46
of those things. When we
personally walk into a meeting,
00:32:51
he just knows that this person
has done something great. I mean,
00:32:54
I remember being in a place where,
00:32:57
of course I was around
entrepreneurs all my life,
00:32:59
but I remember booking my first
big thing and telling my mom,
00:33:04
I feel a little bit nervous because
I'm going to be working with Matthew
00:33:08
McConaughey and Al Pacino,
00:33:11
and I just felt a little
bit nervous and she's like,
00:33:15
just have a conversation with them.
00:33:17
They're just normal people and she's
not an actor, but she has so much.
00:33:21
Life. That's what I told Daniel when
we sat in with Go to meet Dana White,
00:33:25
and we're with David,
we're meeting Dana White,
00:33:29
and he had seen Dana on different
videos and stuff that we had watched,
00:33:33
and the UFC, obviously it's when
we went to the ufc, he was there.
00:33:38
So sitting down is like,
Dana's just a regular guy,
00:33:41
but ask him a great
question and he recited,
00:33:47
he did what he did, the man in the arena,
00:33:50
he did the man in the arena speech
by theater Roosevelt for Dana,
00:33:53
and it's like he just felt so comfortable
in there because we allowed him to be
00:33:57
that.
00:33:57
We put him in, what is it called?
00:34:00
You put someone in the
atmosphere of uncomfortableness,
00:34:05
but then they end up being comfortable
and exactly what happened to me on set.
00:34:10
We had great conversations. A
lot of these big time actors,
00:34:14
they're introverts and they just,
00:34:16
if you can connect with them
with a good conversation,
00:34:19
it could be about breakfast, about
dinner, a show that you watched,
00:34:24
the way that you were
brought up as a child,
00:34:27
when you have those connections, I'm
telling you, when I went into a boardroom,
00:34:32
my partner, his hands were
shaking because he was so nervous,
00:34:35
and I can't remember what
we started talking about,
00:34:39
but they were Italian, I was European,
00:34:42
and we bonded over the
immigrant story and forevermore,
00:34:47
we had a connection and people
were, what is the secret?
00:34:51
How are you booking these huge jobs?
00:34:55
It's because we had a great connection
in the room. It was fearless because it
00:35:00
ended up turning. You get that
connection and it feels like family.
00:35:04
And Daniel has that. Destiny has
that. You have that. I have that. And
00:35:11
if I could challenge you guys,
00:35:13
put yourself in a situation that's big,
00:35:17
but people that are greater than you.
00:35:20
I love being in a room with
people that are smarter than me,
00:35:24
that have accomplished more than me,
00:35:26
where I should be nervous
because these guys are big deals.
00:35:30
There's multimillionaires
that have done so
00:35:35
much in their lives and billionaires,
00:35:37
but it just puts you in this
00:35:42
feeling of comfort. I don't
know, I should be nervous,
00:35:46
but I feel so comfortable because I
know the lessons. Well, I want to.
00:35:48
Kids in those positions. I want
kids in front of those people so.
00:35:52
They're never nervous.
00:35:54
And who can show them things that I
don't even know that I can't show them
00:35:57
because these people know more than I do.
00:35:59
Or maybe they know more than
I do in a different area, and.
00:36:01
They've been able to be blessed
with bigger mistakes and they
00:36:06
learn from those mistakes. If you
could just learn someone's blueprint,
00:36:11
whatever you're going after,
00:36:14
go and learn from someone that's
done it, someone that's failed,
00:36:19
someone that's won and
overcome those hurdles and
00:36:23
obstacles. I mean, isn't
that the best, Dan?
00:36:28
Yeah. I mean, that's what
you want to put your kids in.
00:36:31
You want your kids to know that
that's the best part of these people's
00:36:36
story is that they failed
over and over and over again.
00:36:40
And that's why they succeed is because
they've learned from those failures to
00:36:45
become who they are. I think that, well,
00:36:50
here's a great stat that I pulled off the
internet that four out of five parents
00:36:54
wish they had learned
more about money as a kid.
00:36:57
And if we're not teaching
our kids about money,
00:37:00
if we're not teaching 'em about business,
00:37:02
if we're not teaching them how to network,
00:37:04
how to have these conversations,
then who's going to teach 'em?
00:37:09
Who's going to teach 'em this stuff
if we don't teach 'em? Nobody,
00:37:12
nobody's going to teach 'em this. They're
not learning this stuff in school.
00:37:15
If your kids are in regular school,
00:37:16
there's nobody teaching 'em
this stuff in school. I mean,
00:37:19
other than having the conversations
that they have in class,
00:37:22
but those probably aren't that great.
00:37:25
The truth is it's probably
they're not that great a.
00:37:27
Hundred percent.
00:37:28
Another stat I found was 59% of
parents are uncomfortable talking to
00:37:33
kids about money. And I don't
understand that one. I mean,
00:37:37
that should be the excitement
of the conversation.
00:37:40
It should be explaining
and keeping money in
00:37:44
perspective. We don't like
to build up money too much,
00:37:47
but in a way that money is a
way to solve problems. Yes,
00:37:51
money is a way to fix
things, to help people,
00:37:55
to create relationships, to create
00:38:02
whatever situations and things
that you might do. Travel.
00:38:06
Well, even, I mean,
00:38:09
there may be pushback
on this one. It may be.
00:38:13
Pushback on.
00:38:14
What may be problematic.
00:38:15
But what I'm about to share
is that when my mom was
00:38:20
having a hard time with the business,
00:38:24
she didn't really keep it
secret maybe a little bit,
00:38:27
but we knew.
00:38:30
We knew because we were there
and we can tell by her mood
00:38:35
and we would obviously ask
her to share what's going on.
00:38:39
But there was times when the business,
00:38:41
obviously after Christmas in January,
00:38:45
there's certain months when the
business isn't doing that well,
00:38:49
but rather than woe is
me and allowing it to
00:38:54
cause fear in the family,
00:38:57
we came up with solutions
and ideas on how to
00:39:01
overcome these periods. And
I feel like that is, I mean,
00:39:06
however comfortable you
feel getting into it,
00:39:10
but if you can show them,
00:39:12
because we're all going to have some
kind of struggle with finances in our
00:39:16
lives, and I mean, even if
you have a lot of money,
00:39:20
sometimes all your money is
invested and you're robbing Peter to
00:39:25
pay Paul whatever. What is.
00:39:27
It robbing Peter to pay.
00:39:29
Paul, right? It's biblical.
00:39:33
You need to be confident in those
moments and allow your children
00:39:38
to also one day when they're
going to have some kind of
00:39:43
struggle, not have a nervous breakdown
because you need to be strong.
00:39:48
I mean, that's the worst case scenario.
00:39:49
But what I mean is don't let
it overcome you and fall into
00:39:54
depression or fear because it's only a
moment. And if you can figure it out,
00:39:59
it's only a moment. And sometimes
it takes a little bit longer.
00:40:03
Maybe it takes a few years,
00:40:04
but if you have that
fearlessness within you,
00:40:09
you will keep going and keep climbing
till you dig yourself out of that
00:40:14
hole.
00:40:15
Yeah.
00:40:15
I think not everybody goes.
00:40:16
Through it, but they have to.
00:40:18
See something.
00:40:19
I think one of my superpowers
is that I thrive under pressure,
00:40:22
and so I need our kids to see
00:40:28
that type of pressure.
00:40:29
And when things are going wrong and
when things aren't going your way need.
00:40:32
To, not everything will go.
00:40:34
Your way, need to know that
you're going to be okay,
00:40:36
that you're going to figure it out,
00:40:37
that if you buckle down
and decide you're going to
00:40:42
fix this problem, that
you can fix this problem,
00:40:45
you'll figure out your way out of it
that it's not going to be the end of the
00:40:48
world. That you will figure out
your way out of this problem.
00:40:52
And I think it's important for
our kids to see that I do too,
00:40:55
and see us play that out.
00:40:58
Even if you either explain it
to 'em in the moment or talk
00:41:03
to them about it later down the road
and tell 'em this is what happened,
00:41:07
and it looked like it was
going to be a bad situation.
00:41:09
We didn't know what we were going to do,
00:41:11
but I knew that we could figure this out
if we just thought about it and I put
00:41:16
my head down to it or we put our heads
to it and we figured out how to get out
00:41:21
of it.
00:41:21
And you see the things that your
parents go through as children,
00:41:26
how do they react in this
situation? Are they moody?
00:41:29
Do they turn to substance abuse?
00:41:33
These are things that I know that
my mom was really conscious about.
00:41:37
We'd see her, I guess her
mood was a little bit lower,
00:41:41
but one thing that she
definitely did was pray,
00:41:44
and those prayers were always
answered. And I feel we do that too.
00:41:49
We include our kids in the prayers,
00:41:52
we include our kids in our journey,
00:41:55
and we include them in
the ups and the downs.
00:41:57
And I feel like when you
do that with your children,
00:42:01
I'm talking to you guys when you do that,
00:42:04
there's just going to be something so it's
00:42:09
just so blessed. They're going
to be unstoppable in life.
00:42:13
I am just getting goosebumps
thinking about it. If you can just,
00:42:16
you probably already
are, but if you're not,
00:42:19
just try to find a way to
incorporate them in your journey
00:42:24
and also let them be a part
of the problem and help you
00:42:30
figure.
00:42:30
Out the.
00:42:30
Solution. You know what? You
can share it with your kids.
00:42:36
I think that's perfectly said. I mean,
00:42:39
I'm sure you can feel our passion
when we talk about this stuff because
00:42:45
there is such a good feeling that comes
from it when you actually do this with
00:42:48
your kids and you feel like, one,
00:42:51
you're being more connected and bonded
with them. Two, they are learning.
00:42:55
They're actually learning
from this. And three,
00:43:00
I think it lessens the guilt of when you
00:43:05
are on your phone or doing these texts
or conversations and feeling like they're
00:43:09
included. You're leaving
everybody out, your family.
00:43:12
If they want to be included. Some kids
want to be included more than others.
00:43:16
Of course, help them
understand the language,
00:43:19
help them to listen to the language,
00:43:21
put on things that are
relatable to your business.
00:43:24
Maybe documentaries,
podcasts, whatever it is.
00:43:28
But yeah, introducing
them to documentaries.
00:43:31
We have Daniel watch a documentary
pretty much every day he watches,
00:43:35
even if it's a five minute documentary
about different things. But yeah,
00:43:40
just if you guys try this out,
00:43:42
let us know how it works for you or if
you have any questions about how you're
00:43:46
using it,
00:43:48
if you don't feel like you have a question
about a certain situation. But yeah,
00:43:52
let us know how it's working for
you guys because love to hear.
00:43:55
It's what we are
passionate about right now.
00:43:58
It's the reason we started this podcast,
00:44:02
and I know it might not be for everybody,
00:44:05
and maybe you have a good
reason why it's not for you,
00:44:08
but we feel like this is something that
every single person can implement on
00:44:12
some level, level, on some level.
00:44:16
So thank you guys for tuning in
today. I feel like we were just like,
00:44:20
a lot of it was we didn't
have a real direction.
00:44:22
We just wanted to tell you guys, we were
so excited about how everything went,
00:44:28
and we want that for you.
00:44:29
Guys. Yeah, we just want
that for you, you guys,
00:44:32
to have your story of whatever
that is, whatever it is.
00:44:36
Maybe you are looking for a
new brick and mortar space.
00:44:41
Bring the kids, help them pick it out.
00:44:44
Talk about why this location is good,
00:44:48
or talk about your marketing. Ask
them questions, hear their input.
00:44:52
Sometimes we get the best
ideas from our little children,
00:44:56
just like my mom did
when I was a little kid,
00:44:59
and she got so much information
from my brother that
00:45:04
passed just so many great ideas
that helped build the business.
00:45:08
She did so many unique
ideas of bringing Hungarian
00:45:13
pastries on a certain
day and wonderful coffee,
00:45:18
and she would have these
great entrepreneurs come in
00:45:23
and just feel comfortable in her.
00:45:27
Just little things that may
seem simple can create a
00:45:31
big momentum in your business and
just share that stuff with your.
00:45:36
Kids.
00:45:36
And you know what else you'll find that
I've found out was kind of like that I
00:45:41
didn't expect.
00:45:41
What is the respect you get from the
people you think that they're going
00:45:46
to push back,
00:45:48
but they actually super
respect you for what you're
00:45:52
doing, for how you're bringing your kids
into these conversations and your kids?
00:45:58
I'm telling you, they get smarter because
of it and they actually have great
00:46:03
conversations. I think our interview,
if you listen to Daniel's interview,
00:46:08
we interviewed him probably
about five or six podcasts ago.
00:46:14
If you look back on it, and it's an
interview with the youngest entrepreneur,
00:46:17
I think it's called, and
you can hear, listen to him,
00:46:21
his conversations. We hadn't heard
a conversation like that before,
00:46:25
but his intelligent
conversation that he has with us
00:46:30
this conversation is because it is 100%
00:46:35
because of him listening
to us have conversations,
00:46:39
business conversations every
single day of his life.
00:46:43
That is why he can have
those conversations.
00:46:46
That is why he can get up on
stage in front of 3000 people
00:46:51
and deliver a speech.
00:46:53
That is why we can put him in front
of any entrepreneur in the world,
00:46:57
and he will ask an intelligent question
and have a conversation with them.
00:47:01
We encourage you guys to try this in
your house. Try this in your family,
00:47:06
and we promise you, you
will not be disappointed.
00:47:10
And always watch the way you speak
to your children because they're
00:47:15
going to, I feel like even destiny,
00:47:19
when I feel a little stressed
or I'm like, oh no, oh no,
00:47:23
just like I'm talking out loud and
she goes, don't worry, you're brave.
00:47:27
You can do this. Do
know what I mean? Where.
00:47:30
Does that come from?
00:47:31
Where does that come from?
00:47:33
It just comes from things when we're not
expecting it because we've been saying
00:47:36
it to them.
00:47:36
Right? And when I was going through the
hardest time in my life and this little
00:47:41
2-year-old, or, well, it was almost three,
00:47:44
but sitting me down and just, you
can do this. You're so strong.
00:47:50
God, you, God loves you, just
the things you need to hear.
00:47:54
So it's just great pour
into those little babies,
00:47:57
and I'm telling you, I'm just
so excited because we're.
00:48:01
All, they'll surprise you.
They will do great things.
00:48:03
They will. They will. God bless you guys.
00:48:06
Thank you guys for tuning in and we
will catch you guys next week. Yes.
00:48:11
We appreciate you guys listening
to the pre and punk podcast.
00:48:16
Be sure to leave a review. It
helps our podcast along subscribe,
00:48:22
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