EP 154 DO IT! DON’T DO IT! Share Your Dreams with the World.
On this intriguing episode of the Pretty and Punk Podcast, hosts Dan Caldwell and Ildiko Ferenczi dive deep into a thought-provoking discussion that many entrepreneurs and dreamers grapple with: Should you share your dreams with the world? The episode kicks off with Dan reflecting on a previous conversation about the power and perils of broadcasting one's dreams and goals. Ildiko, with her unique perspective, counters with the importance of holding dreams close.
As the debate unfolds, the co-hosts explore various facets of this topic, sharing their personal ideas and professional experiences. Dan discusses his time as a police officer juggling his entrepreneurial pursuits, facing ridicule yet believing in the power of community support. Ildiko, on the other hand, discusses her cautious approach, focusing on the timing and context of sharing her dreams, especially as a woman in business.
They also touch on the impact of their upbringing and personal experiences on their current viewpoints. The discussion of vulnerability, ambition, and the delicate balance between seeking guidance and maintaining self-belief.
Throughout the episode, Dan and Ildiko don't shy away from disagreeing and challenging each other, yet they maintain a respectful and loving tone, demonstrating the strength of their partnership.
You are invited to reflect on their approach to sharing their dreams and consider your own options. With a blend of humor, honesty, and heartfelt advice, this episode is a must-listen for anyone on the journey of realizing their dreams and navigating the complex world of entrepreneurship and personal growth.
Join Dan and Ildiko for this compelling episode of the Pretty and Punk Podcast, the debate is lively, the insights are profound, and the conversation is as real as it gets.
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I believe that people want to help people
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who are focused and driven and
have a dream in their heart.
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I think people want to help those
people. Now, once you achieve that dream,
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that's another story.
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No.
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Oh, that's better, right, babe?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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She founded an architectural
concrete company.
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He founded a hundred million
dollars clothing company.
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She took the world by storm
as a social media star.
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He took the world by storm as
a famous serial entrepreneur.
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Together we started a business.
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And had babies.
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Now we're figuring out
the best ways to do both.
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Join us as we learn from other
entrepreneurs going through the same life
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struggles.
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As they share their life,
hacks about success, love.
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Kids, and everything in between.
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Many dreams die because
they were shared with the
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wrong people. Don't
tell people your dreams.
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S Sodom.
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Welcome to the Pretty and Punk podcast.
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My name is Dan Caldwell and I'm here
with my beautiful wife, Ilko Zi,
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who is on her phone. And because you
didn't even notice I was there yet.
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You're on your phone.
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For the first time in my life.
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No, you're on TikTok or.
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Something. Welcome to the world
of, no, I'm not. I'm on Google. I.
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Told looking for, I told you 10 times.
We're going to start this podcast,
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got a great, another great podcast.
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We got another great podcast,
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we were talking about last week.
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Was it last week? We were
talking about New Year's.
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Resolution a little bit. I think
it was on the last episode. Yes.
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Okay, on the last episode. Should
you put your dreams out to the world?
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Now, this is one of those podcasts,
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and we haven't done one of
these podcasts in a while,
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but this is one of those podcasts.
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side is wrong, but I do.
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I don't know.
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Should you put your
dreams out to the world.
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We were speaking last
week about our New Year's
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resolutions, putting things out to
the world, and after the podcast,
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Ilko mentioned to me, they're
like, should you have said that?
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Because I had said, you should
put your dreams out to the world.
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You should tell people
about 'em. Put it out there.
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Tell everybody because it
helps hold you accountable.
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And she came to me and said that, well,
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what exactly did you come to me and said.
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I feel, and this is
just with my experience,
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and maybe it's different for a woman,
maybe it's different for a man,
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but for myself,
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I like to keep my dreams close
to my heart in the infant stages.
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But you're talking about in the
infant stages, blasting it out there.
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I don't like to do that.
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Well, I don't think day one. I
think once you've decided you, you.
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Were talking about day one, now.
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You're changing.
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Your mind. You cannot.
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That's not true. Do that. No,
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I just mean once you get going and
you've decided that this is what I'm
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doing, that you start
putting it out to the world.
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I believe that people want
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to help people who are focused and driven
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and have a dream in their heart. I
think people want to help those people.
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Now, once you achieve that
dream, that's another story.
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Now they're all after you.
Everybody's gunning for you.
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But on the way, people love
to see passionate people,
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they love to see people who now, not
to say that they won't make fun of you,
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because I can remember
early on when early in the
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early infant stages of tapout, I was
still a police officer at the time,
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and I would carry
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these order forms in my back
pocket and I would take calls.
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I would forward our business phone to my
cell phone. So I would take calls on my
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cell phone sometimes
and sometimes at work.
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And people used to make fun of me because
I would answer my cell phone all the
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time. I didn't know who was actually
calling when I had it forwarded.
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So sometimes it was a friend.
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Sometimes it couldn't tell me
whether it was an order or not.
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So I would say tap out clothing. I would
answer all my calls, tap out clothing,
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and people, before I would
even answer the phone,
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they would make fun of me and they'd
be tap out clothing, tap out clothing.
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They knew what I was going to say, and
they'd heard me say it so many times,
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and I think people make
fun of you. But generally,
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I think people want to help you.
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If they see how passionate you are,
people want to file in behind you,
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especially people who have means and
people who've done it. Successful people,
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those successful people don't make
fun of you if they've already done it.
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They want you to succeed.
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Well, I agree. I agree with that,
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but I think that I
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just, I don't know there just.
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Something.
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About I'm over.
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No, I'm winning you over.
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No, I understand about the circle,
the circle of friends. I mean,
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someone that is successful is
never going to make fun of you.
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Someone that is successful is never going
to cut down your idea because they've
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been through it and
they've gone through it.
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So when I say I keep my
ideas close to my heart,
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the number one person I
tell I bounce it off of is
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my mom. But even when I
bounce things off of you,
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sometimes you come back at me
and say, oh no, this won't work.
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That won't work. Even
literally two days ago. Yes.
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On what we were talking about,
something about social media and
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remember, yes.
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I just remember in the infant days
when it was blasting off and I
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didn't have kids yet, so I could
really spend a lot of time on there,
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and I just saw the followers
coming in and brands coming,
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offering me thousands of dollars,
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and you just really didn't
see it as a business.
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You thought it was a joke and you
decided to invest in this business
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that I knew was going to go bankrupt.
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But yet you were doubting the social
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media business. And I was like, just,
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if we would've went all in, we
would've been Mr. Beast by now,
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just so you know. Okay.
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Yeah, but I never, no, I didn't ever
put down your idea though. I didn't.
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Put yours down either. But behind
your back, I'm like, this is going.
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To go bankrupt.
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I know. It's, I can't believe
that you're going into.
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Business with these people on. Okay,
so in all fairness, in all fairness,
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okay, you, Mr. Peace, okay, stop.
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How much is.
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Okay, stop. That's going to be the female,
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Mr. Mr. Okay, listen, here's the
truth, but you chopped my tree down.
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In all fairness, I never put
down your idea. Okay? I decide.
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But you just didn't believe in
it, which made me feel really.
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Like, yeah, maybe I just
decided against it. Okay.
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But then there's the mom bloggers now
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that are making, and I'm not into that.
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I'm not into that stuff anymore,
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but I did make a lot of money and
there was times like, oh yeah, oh yeah,
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this jet company just gave me 10
grand. I'm not even telling you.
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Thank you very.
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Much. I remembered that too,
and I don't forget, okay.
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How.
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Long was, how long, but here's the thing.
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How long was my post? But
here's the thing, five seconds.
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10 Seconds. Okay, here's
the thing, 10 grand.
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If you would've told me
that maybe my mind would've.
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Been changed, I was telling
you and you saw every.
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Single.
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Day, you didn't give me all the facts
day, I would have this money coming,
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but I just didn't know. At that time,
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I didn't know how to navigate the.
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Business. But see, okay,
I'm about to make my point.
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I'm about to make my point though.
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Can I finish my thought ahead?
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I needed you or someone
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that could help me turn
it into a business.
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I knew how to blow brands up
because I had the eyes on me.
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We had Periscope. We had what? 250 million
views. We had all this stuff going.
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Again, this is before kids,
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and this is not where my
heart is at this moment,
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but what I'm saying is I needed eyes to
look at it in a different way because
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this was the infant
stages of social media,
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getting paid for products,
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people sending every day, lots
and lots and lots of products.
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And I am at the point in my
life where I'm just saying no,
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because it's not all
easy. There's deadlines,
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there's scripts that they
will want you to say,
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and if you don't agree with their product,
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you don't want to be shouting it out
and sharing it and looking like a
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commercial. I just feel like
right now it's not very organic.
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People are pushing stuff out there.
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If I like what I'm wearing or eating
or I feel like it's doing good for my
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family, then sometimes I'll take
something on. But at that time,
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that's what I wanted to
do. So I took it on myself,
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but I needed some fresh eyes to
look at it and how can I make this a
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business? What do I need to do?
It was something new for me.
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And obviously it was new for you
because you're like, oh, this is weird.
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This isn't a real business.
This is just pictures.
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Online. I think it's a little
bit different now. At that time,
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it wasn't that I didn't think
you could make money with.
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It. It was too new. It was too new. I get.
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It. But it wasn't that. I didn't
think you could make money with it.
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I just didn't see it as a business. I
didn't see something you could sell. It's.
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Marketing.
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Marketing, yeah.
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Marketing. I.
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Saw the marketing side. It's just making
money. It's like my time for money.
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I'm trading time for money again.
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It's like a commercial.
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Right? It might've been good money,
but you're just trading time for money.
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It's not something you
could sell now. Now,
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obviously that's been proven wrong.
People are selling these businesses.
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I didn't see it like that.
I saw it as like, oh,
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it's a social media business that doesn't.
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So I'm a brand to make money now.
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But now it's a different story.
They're building their YouTubes.
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You could sell your YouTube channel,
your contacts, your email list.
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There's a lot. I mean,
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I heard that they had offered Mr.
Beast a billion dollars for his YouTube
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channel, and he turned it down, or all
his YouTube channels, he turned it down.
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Well.
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That could have been.
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Us. I mean, yeah, well,
I dunno about that,
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but I'm just saying that it was a
different time. Now see, you just.
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Cut my head, but.
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No, no, no, but no, no, no, you would've.
So I'm just proving my point here.
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Mic drop time, which is the mic.
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Drop. I was all in.
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If you would've pushed it out there and
shouted it out to the world because you
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weren't real clear with me about
that. You were just like, Hey,
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I want to do this. And I was kind
of like, you were talking to me.
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It was a conversation. I was kind of, but.
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How do you think that the swimwear
line was born? Because once I became,
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and as an actor and as an actress,
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that was getting me a
different kind of fame.
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That was getting me fame
for movies and stuff,
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but that's not fulfilling.
Number two, social media.
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I was getting social media famous very,
very quickly. Then all of a sudden,
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paparazzi started coming,
magazines started coming,
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and they were putting me on magazine
covers. So what happened next?
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They wanted me to wear, people
came to me and they said, oh,
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can you wear my bikini? And I was like,
no, I'm going to start a swimwear line.
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And what I did very quickly
was put my swimwear line,
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my luxury swimwear line on all my
friends that had over a million
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followers and it blew up. That.
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Was different. See, here's exactly what.
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I was saying. I took advantage.
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You started telling people
about your swimwear line. See?
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So all the stuff that you said
you weren't going to do, you.
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Actually I didn't because I was behind.
Well, actually, no, that's not true.
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I was hiding behind
the brand for a minute.
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I didn't want anyone to know it was mine.
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So I'd bring all these beautiful bikinis
on set when I was doing my shoot,
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and I would get it on all these
other famous actresses and models.
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But then later, yes, I did talk
about the brand, but it was later.
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I waited. I kept it close to my heart
because I had my feelings hurt before.
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But I still feel like that.
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So the debate is.
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Do you think I told when
I had the architectural
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concrete company, do you
think I told everybody,
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my mom always believed in everything,
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but she was really surprised when I
came to her and I told her about the
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architectural concrete company. Here
I am, this tiny little petite thing,
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and I'm going to go into a man's world.
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But you still told her.
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I told her, but nobody else.
I didn't tell the world.
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Well, I don't mean telling.
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I just mean when you
get in front of people,
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I guess I was just always so excited
about every business I start or whatever
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I'm doing at the time, I'm so excited.
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I can't keep it too close to me
because I am flushing it out.
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As I am building it, I'm
building it in my head.
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So when I get in front of
somebody, I'm so excited about it.
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Sometimes I look a little
bit for their feedback,
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even though it's not going to change
me. And I'm so convinced. But.
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You never get swayed in any way. No.
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No. So.
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I get swayed by you. I can be honest,
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and I could tell you I have a
great idea. And then you're like.
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Never know clothing Bri bribed again.
I'll tell you, you can't do something.
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I will tell you if
there's a better way to do
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it, in my opinion. Now
with your swimwear line,
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I was like,
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there's a way to do this better
if you want to go to the masses.
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But the way you're doing it now,
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trying to get your best price on
products like this, you need to sell.
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Your price point right
now has to be produce.
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Well, we were going toe to toe because
you wanted to mass produce and you wanted
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to get to a special.
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Place, produce Well, because I
needed you at a certain price.
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Point produce,
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and I wanted it to be made in the USA.
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And I had this lovely lady that was
making things for me and everything was
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custom. And I think for
women that can afford it,
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that's a really exciting thing.
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There's only a certain
amount of pieces and it's a.
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Well, I didn't say you couldn do.
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That.
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Just said your price
point had to be 400, $500.
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But when we went to Con's, that
Prince from Dubai was like,
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I want your stuff in my store.
And then we went to Monaco.
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I want my stuff in my.
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Store. Those are cool moments.
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Went the Fairmont. I will never
forget those moments because I'm like.
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Again, you were pushing it out there
and you're telling people told.
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I didn't even push it out.
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I was wearing the bikini and the owner
of both hotels came up to me and said,
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where did you get that? I said, I have
a swimmer line, a luxury swimmer line.
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And they said, we need
that in our boutique.
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Did you just tell me? You just said
it to him. So you put it, yeah, but.
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It was already doing well
on covers at that point.
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Well, but I'm just saying that I think
that happens at the beginning too.
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When you put it out there to the world
early and people start to realize, oh,
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how can I help this guy? They start,
it starts running through their head.
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And if you're a person who
can't be swayed, you're not
going to. I know people,
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here's the thing is I know
people who won't take action,
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and so when they put
things out to the world.
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I.
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Love to.
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Take action that very minute though. I.
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Think they're waiting to be talked
out of it. Have you met those people?
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They're.
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Waiting. Not really. I don't.
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Have.
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Friends like.
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That. I think I've had enough people that
I've been around. I know this one guy,
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and I don't say his name or anything,
00:18:05
but I don't know if he
listens to the podcast, but he
00:18:10
always has these ideas and he's always
putting things out to the world, but
00:18:16
he doesn't ever follow
through with any of them.
00:18:19
Okay, so that's.
00:18:19
A reason not.
00:18:20
So he puts it out to the world waiting
for people to talk him out of it,
00:18:23
I think. Oh no, but I'm not that
person. You can't talk me out of it.
00:18:27
Once I've decided, I won't tell
people until I've decided. I.
00:18:31
Think I just like to go in deep
enough and then I like to talk about
00:18:36
it.
00:18:37
Well, then we're not too
far off. Just I guess.
00:18:40
What's the point? But it's not
that I'm never going to talk about.
00:18:42
Where's that? You start talking about it.
00:18:44
When it starts to blow up.
00:18:46
Well see, I'm probably
talking about it earlier.
00:18:48
But I feel like every, I don't know.
00:18:50
I feel it's a lesson that
my mom always told me was
00:18:55
Don't boast about it. Keep
it close to your heart.
00:18:58
And I guess I feel like maybe
it's braggy, I'm bragging.
00:19:03
No, I wouldn't do it that way.
00:19:04
But I want to encourage other people
that it's possible when it starts to
00:19:07
happen. It's like, I prayed
about this and it's happening.
00:19:12
I don't think I brag. Do I
ever brag about anything?
00:19:14
I don't think so, but I
don't think so. I'm not.
00:19:17
Trying to brag about it. Sometimes I
explain, I'm excited. Isn't this cool?
00:19:21
Maybe I feel like people that
don't have the confidence to
00:19:25
go out and do something or try something,
00:19:28
I definitely don't want to talk about.
00:19:32
I'm going to do this thing and it's
going to happen and I know it's going to
00:19:35
happen because I'm going to
work really, really hard.
00:19:38
I know I can say it in a keynote.
00:19:41
I know I can say it in a room full of
achievers and winners and people that are
00:19:46
striving to greatness.
00:19:48
But I do know that there are
some people that are in our
00:19:52
surroundings that are
wanting us to not do well.
00:19:57
So let me ask you this. So you
used to do these auditions.
00:20:01
You used to be an actress. So
when you would go to an audition,
00:20:04
let's say it was a big role, you
knew it was going to be a big role.
00:20:07
Would you tell anybody
before you went to audition
00:20:12
that you were going to
audition for this big role?
00:20:17
God and my mom.
00:20:19
You wouldn't tell anybody else?
00:20:22
Well, I mean my past relationship,
00:20:27
that was the only soul.
00:20:29
Well, I guess I would would.
00:20:31
Just tell people my relationship, God
and my mom. And if it was meant to be,
00:20:35
I would ask God, bring this to
me if it's meant to be. If not,
00:20:39
I know that that's not my life path,
00:20:42
but I know that it brought
me a lot of lessons
00:20:47
on
00:20:49
They don't say yes to you
all the time in an audition.
00:20:53
And that's something a very
special kind of person has to go
00:20:58
in and do an audition. You know
that they're looking at your face,
00:21:02
at your teeth, at your nose, at your
eyes, at your hair. Hair color, height,
00:21:08
body composition of fat.
00:21:12
Too thin, too fat, too this,
00:21:14
too that I know that they're
the sound of my voice.
00:21:19
Everything. How about the
way you read the lines maybe?
00:21:21
No, they're judging every single.
00:21:23
Thing. I'm sure that they do.
00:21:25
No,
00:21:25
but I'm just saying they have
this character in their head
00:21:31
and it's on paper. It
says who it's going to be.
00:21:35
I feel like the thing
that got me through it is
00:21:40
I know this character is blonde.
00:21:43
I'm still going in for
it because I have access.
00:21:46
I know the casting director likes me.
00:21:48
I'm going to change their mind.
00:21:51
I'm going to make them fall in love
with me and I'm going to win them,
00:21:55
and I'm going to do something so
unique that none of these other girls
00:22:00
or women or whoever I was going
up against was going to do.
00:22:04
And that's what would carry me
through is just thinking different,
00:22:08
thinking outside of the box and just being
00:22:12
unique. And if I felt
that I did a good job,
00:22:18
I know in the beginning it
wasn't like that. I was nervous.
00:22:22
I would get nervous,
00:22:23
but by the time I got to
where I had a three every
00:22:28
third audition I would
book. At that point,
00:22:31
I was so confident going in
there and I knew it was just,
00:22:35
there's an energy and it's contagious.
00:22:38
Even though I wasn't the one,
00:22:41
I could feel their energy
wanting me to be the one.
00:22:47
So when would you tell friends or
something? At what point after.
00:22:51
I already booked it.
00:22:52
Well.
00:22:53
After. I never ever.
00:22:54
Told them before. So I
think that we're probably.
00:22:56
Once.
00:22:57
I booked it, we're like one step away.
00:22:58
And that doesn't matter because once
you booked it, you can still get fired.
00:23:04
You could do a crappy
job on set and be fired.
00:23:08
I've seen it happen sometimes
those directors and producers,
00:23:12
they're very stressed
out and you just want to
00:23:17
do a great job.
00:23:18
And I've seen people get fired
and bringing in the second person
00:23:24
that was in line in the audition, I've
seen it happen. So it's still scary.
00:23:28
Well.
00:23:29
I think that's where I
00:23:33
will it into the world.
00:23:36
I dunno about auditions because maybe
it's a little harder to get picked up for
00:23:40
a role like that,
00:23:41
but I start telling people before
it happens because I'm telling the
00:23:46
world what is going to happen. Even
though truly I really don't know,
00:23:50
but I'm telling them because
I'm willing it into myself if I,
00:23:56
I'm.
00:23:56
Willing into, I know when we.
00:23:58
Were getting our show, we told everybody
we were going to have a TV show.
00:24:03
We had zero chance of having
a TV show at that time.
00:24:06
Nobody was asking us to do
a TV show. That's crazy.
00:24:09
We would even tell people that
they were asking us about doing a
00:24:14
TV show when they weren't
asking us about telling,
00:24:17
because we were willing
it so much into the world.
00:24:20
We wanted to tell everybody that would
listen because we felt like it would form
00:24:25
around that situation
and find its way to the
00:24:30
right person so that it
would actually happen.
00:24:32
That's interesting. I mean,
when they were coming to us
00:24:38
for the Queen of Concrete
or Queen of Construction,
00:24:42
I wasn't sure what they were going to
go with. I definitely didn't will that.
00:24:46
They just heard about me being
a female in that industry and.
00:24:51
Well, you were putting
your business out to the.
00:24:52
World. The business was out there.
00:24:54
But when we have a new
project, we had so many new,
00:24:58
and even to this day,
00:25:00
we have so many new projects that I feel
like if you talk to people about it,
00:25:04
you never know who that, but.
00:25:05
You have talk to the right.
00:25:06
People. Talk to. I feel like.
00:25:08
You.
00:25:08
Don't want to somebody. You don't
know who the right person is.
00:25:10
Who was I just talking to yesterday?
Somebody, oh man, it was a good one.
00:25:14
Somebody was talking to somebody
and they were trying to meet, oh,
00:25:19
I can't talk about it
because it's business stuff,
00:25:22
but they were trying to
get this deal done with
00:25:27
somebody. They seemingly,
00:25:29
there's no chance that anybody
would know that they know each.
00:25:33
This is going to make zero sense.
00:25:34
But they talked to a
friend about if he knew
00:25:39
anybody in this space,
00:25:42
just because he knew that he
had done this thing before
00:25:47
and it turned out that person that they
needed to talk to that they had been
00:25:51
trying to get to get this
thing done, which can't,
00:25:55
I'm just using all this thing done,
00:25:58
was that guy's good, great friend,
00:26:02
like past best friend.
00:26:05
And he was able to just call
that person and make it happen.
00:26:08
It's all because they put it out to the
world otherwise would've never known.
00:26:12
That person knew. It's.
00:26:14
Not the world, it's the connections.
00:26:19
I mean, I am seeing, yes,
when I'm doing my idea,
00:26:23
I'm going through my Rolodex
in my head and trying to find
00:26:28
who, who's interested in this,
who has done this before.
00:26:33
Definitely I need to tell those
people because I need their help
00:26:38
or their advice,
00:26:40
but that's already once
I've committed and started
00:26:45
working on it, because I also
want them to see that I'm serious,
00:26:48
that I'm serious. Well, I'm not.
00:26:50
Walking around going after this.
I mean, I'm telling people, but.
00:26:54
That's putting it out to the, not nobody.
00:26:57
Everybody has a purpose and a plan,
00:27:00
but there are negative people
and there's positive people
00:27:05
and we have a really
great circle around us.
00:27:10
But people do talk and it
goes out and it goes around.
00:27:14
And sometimes, I mean,
00:27:17
I've seen you deflated with stuff when you
00:27:21
sometimes hear somebody
say so something. Well, I.
00:27:25
Disappointed people talking about
me behind my back. That sucks.
00:27:29
Guess I don't wish that on.
00:27:31
Nobody. You don't. Don't need.
00:27:32
That energy. That's nothing bad,
bad things on anybody. That's that.
00:27:37
So when people, if somebody's
wishing bad stuff on me,
00:27:41
that doesn't make me.
00:27:42
Happy. May no weapon formed
against us ever, possibly.
00:27:45
Ever. There you go. But I'm just saying,
00:27:47
I'm not taking it to nobody's or
people that don't matter in my world.
00:27:52
I'm taking it to people
that maybe I know. Okay,
00:27:57
that respect, let qualify the person.
Respect. I know. Respect. Respect. Well,
00:28:00
I don't keep anybody in my circle
that I don't respect for something.
00:28:05
They may not be the exact thing
that I'm doing, but I respect them.
00:28:09
Somewhere in their world there might be,
00:28:12
I have a good friend who's a
guitarist or a bass guitarist and I
00:28:17
respect him in his world because
he's the best at what he does. I.
00:28:21
Even feel that maybe not on
Instagram, not on TikTok,
00:28:25
not on any of that stuff,
00:28:26
but I almost feel like we could
probably blast something on our
00:28:31
podcast.
00:28:33
I feel like the majority of
people that are listening have a
00:28:37
very similar mindset. They love God.
00:28:40
They're trying to overcome
obstacles or they have overcome
00:28:45
obstacles.
00:28:46
They're either working their
way up to better themselves,
00:28:50
better their family, become
leaders, build their own kingdom,
00:28:55
or they've already been there and
they're just relating to our stories.
00:28:59
I feel like our audience on our podcast is
00:29:03
truly someone that we can share
00:29:08
with. But then sometimes I'm like, well,
00:29:11
what if there's that
sneaky person listening?
00:29:16
I don't want to blast. Yeah, but
I think this is almost next level,
00:29:18
the fact that in today's world,
00:29:20
we're in a time where when you
think about if Edison had an
00:29:24
idea or Westinghouse or Tesla or some
of these people back at that time,
00:29:29
it would've been hard to
get your idea out. In fact,
00:29:31
if you watch the movie about Nicola Tesla,
00:29:34
he went to Edison because he
was the only person he knew.
00:29:37
He came from his home country.
00:29:39
He was the only person that kind of
understood what he was going through in
00:29:44
his head.
00:29:45
But even though.
00:29:46
Who you can.
00:29:47
Go to D.
00:29:47
World actually today,
00:29:49
what's so different about today's world
is you can literally put it out on
00:29:53
something like a podcast like this and
you could have people form around you
00:29:58
and try to contribute to your.
00:30:00
Idea. Okay, I agree. I mean,
00:30:01
the more I inspect it or inspect it,
00:30:05
I guess run it through
my mind. Yes, I feel,
00:30:10
but can't you agree with me?
00:30:12
You can't just blast it to the
world because there's good at
00:30:17
God energy and then there's
just all that negative energy,
00:30:20
and I just really honestly
don't want to even deal with it.
00:30:25
I just.
00:30:26
Don't want to deal.
00:30:26
With, I don't want to defend it. I'll
just let it be You say what you want,
00:30:31
do what you want.
00:30:33
I believe in my idea and I know
that this is what I'm called to do
00:30:37
right now, and I'm going
to go for it with 110%.
00:30:41
That's what I million percent, I think
you put it out to the world right now.
00:30:44
If you said right now over the
mic, I'm trying to do this guys,
00:30:48
anybody who's listening who.
00:30:50
I think here I could. I think here.
00:30:52
I could. I'm trying to do this. Agree.
00:30:54
If there's anybody listening that
knows this person or how to do this or
00:31:00
the best way of making this happen, I'm.
00:31:02
Not ashamed of contact me asking
for help. Yeah, could I do I.
00:31:05
Think people come to the table.
00:31:06
Look for mentors,
00:31:09
look for people that already
have the blueprint print on what
00:31:14
I'm trying to do. That's
how I've become successful.
00:31:18
A lot of times I've been in the infant
stages where I've had to try to figure
00:31:23
things out myself, and that's cool.
00:31:25
And then when people came to
me asking for the blueprint,
00:31:28
of course I want to help them.
00:31:31
Honestly, now that I think about it, I
think you're better at that than I am.
00:31:35
You're more likely to
ask for help than I am.
00:31:37
But I know who to go too. I know.
00:31:38
How to get there. I don't
need no help with these.
00:31:40
Directions.
00:31:41
I study who I need to go to
in my Rolodex or who I need
00:31:45
to get to know.
00:31:47
I'm the last person getting out
of my car asking for directions.
00:31:51
Oh, if I see someone with a good camera,
00:31:53
when I used to be doing
the social media thing,
00:31:58
I would.
00:31:59
Literally, last time in Vegas,
00:32:00
you walked across the street and
start talking to somebody. I'll.
00:32:02
Follow someone down because in my heart,
00:32:06
I feel called to just connect
with them and say, Hey, listen,
00:32:12
we just exchange words.
00:32:13
And it's really how some of
my best relationships ever
00:32:18
started.
00:32:19
That guy you started talking
to at the beach that time,
00:32:21
you turned out to be some
super TikTok photographer or.
00:32:25
Something. Oh yeah, I had
idea, but I just could tell.
00:32:30
I've been in this business for a long
time and the way he was, it's very,
00:32:34
everybody says they're a photographer,
videographer, content creator.
00:32:39
But I could just tell that he was good.
00:32:41
And then I looked him up later
and it was Charlie de her
00:32:46
pickle, the big TikTok show.
00:32:49
Anyways, I think that was a great debate.
I like going back and forth with you.
00:32:53
I think in a lot of ways
we're a lot closer than we
actually thought because we.
00:32:57
Didn't really want to talk about
this. I mean, I do agree with you,
00:32:59
but I also am noticing that you're
pulling back. I didn't mean the world,
00:33:03
I just mean this circle of
people or these types of
00:33:08
people. And with that, I
do agree a hundred percent,
00:33:13
but definitely in the
infant stages it was,
00:33:16
I know that my mom, she
would never cut an idea down.
00:33:21
Sometimes I do feel a little
deflated with you sometimes.
00:33:26
I mean, especially that I fleet
you. What? No, no, not always,
00:33:29
but I mean you have good points, but I.
00:33:34
Just, okay, well, I'm sorry about that.
If I ever kill your ideas, I'm sorry.
00:33:38
Put me in check. I'm going.
00:33:38
To have to get like a.
00:33:40
I want to champion your ideas,
00:33:43
but I can't help myself sometimes
having to run companies,
00:33:47
you have to go, look,
I'm using my expertise.
00:33:49
I use what I understand. I don't
know. I just don't want to know.
00:33:55
I know my mom, I always used to be
a little bit scared to tell my mom,
00:33:59
but then she would always come up with
really good ideas and just try to bring
00:34:04
something to the table. And even,
I don't know, even with the.
00:34:09
Beginning.
00:34:10
Stage.
00:34:11
Dummy.
00:34:12
Well, don't say that word that
you can't wish bad upon yourself.
00:34:16
This is why we don't share ideas.
00:34:18
Because I think I take pride in
telling people, I mean, you know what?
00:34:22
Maybe it's true.
00:34:24
I think I'm more aptt to tell people
I don't know if they come to me than
00:34:28
idea that I'm always try to be very clear.
00:34:33
I would never tell you
you could not do that.
00:34:36
But I think.
00:34:37
I do think I always want them to.
00:34:38
Believe they can do something. I do
really outside of the box. And I also.
00:34:42
Yeah, you come to me with some.
00:34:44
Crazy, no, it's not that. But even you,
00:34:49
I see you doing this,
that and the other. And
00:34:54
even with our journey as
00:34:59
showing the world that you're a father,
00:35:02
I think that you were really stuck on
00:35:07
being a cool guy.
00:35:09
And I can roll up all these.
00:35:12
Chicks.
00:35:13
And do all these.
00:35:14
Things. That was 10 years ago. Come on.
00:35:16
Now. I know, but I feel like you're right.
00:35:17
You're right. You have
better intuition than I do.
00:35:20
For sure. I'm like, you're
so much cooler as a dad,
00:35:23
a good faithful dad don't need,
00:35:26
I mean your audience before of
these dudes that wanted to roll up
00:35:31
50 chicks, you're not that guy.
00:35:34
You literally aren't even
the guy that has tattoos.
00:35:38
You just did that to be the tapout guy,
00:35:42
just to prove that you were so
committed. And when you told me,
00:35:46
because I'm not attracted to tattoo.
I don't have one tattoo on my body,
00:35:50
never will never could come on. Now
my mom would honestly, oh my gosh,
00:35:56
I just never saw myself being
with a dude with tattoos.
00:36:00
But when you said I didn't
want them, then I'm like.
00:36:03
Until you looked into my eyes. So there.
00:36:04
You go. You didn't want the tattoos.
00:36:06
Now I am really attracted to you
because I don't want them either,
00:36:11
and I love you so much, and.
00:36:13
So I'm your trophy. You
don't have to get tattoos.
00:36:18
You got me.
00:36:20
I don't want tattoos. Wouldn't.
Not for me. Not for me.
00:36:23
And I just never imagined
myself with someone.
00:36:26
With tattoos. I don't know if this
is good or bad. Maybe. I don't know.
00:36:30
I don't know. I one thing's for sure,
00:36:33
if I'm killing any of your
dreams or passions or hopes,
00:36:37
shame on me. I need to get better at
that. I do get opinionated sometimes,
00:36:42
and I need to make sure that I separate my
00:36:47
personal opinion from what's.
00:36:48
Possible. What's interesting,
00:36:50
even as I turned into motherhood,
00:36:54
and I think you a little bit doubted
00:37:01
the mom entrepreneur journey,
00:37:03
like being a mom in
business. I don't know.
00:37:07
I feel like in the very beginning
I feel like you didn't think it was
00:37:11
cool, but now you see, no,
are you kidding me? How.
00:37:16
Powerful. That's not true. That's not.
00:37:18
True. Okay. Maybe it was
my own insecurity of.
00:37:20
That had to be, because I always
thought that that was going to be.
00:37:24
There was something you said along to,
00:37:25
and I don't know where or when or
whatever, I just remember you saying,
00:37:28
but you're a mom now or something.
And I was like, I'm a mom now.
00:37:33
That makes me the coolest thing ever. I.
00:37:36
Created, I dunno what
context I use that in, but.
00:37:39
Baby, maybe. I don't think you were
mad. I don't think we were fighting. No.
00:37:42
It was just something,
00:37:44
and I think I remember it because
it was maybe even my own security.
00:37:48
I think women have this thing of
what is the world going to think of
00:37:53
me now that I'm a mom?
00:37:54
No, I noticed this about you. You're like
00:37:59
Nick Diaz and Nate Diaz. What's
that? Great guys. These guys,
00:38:02
when they get up for a fight,
they need to have an enemy.
00:38:05
They hate the guy across the ring no
matter what they have to, you're my enemy.
00:38:10
So when you come up with something,
you're like, you have to have an enemy.
00:38:13
I've noticed this about
you. That's not true.
00:38:16
It's like that person over there
didn't do anything. What do they.
00:38:18
Do? That's That's not true.
Yes, you do. True how you're.
00:38:21
Like, oh yeah, I'm doing this and they
don't want me to do this. I'm like,
00:38:24
who doesn't want you to do it? Yeah,
everybody doesn't want me to do this.
00:38:28
That's not true. I'm
like, who's everybody?
00:38:30
No, there's one person.
00:38:32
I think you made.
00:38:33
Me's one person at that point. No, you,
00:38:35
there's one person that I know
doesn't like me in my life,
00:38:39
and that person used to be a part of
your life and they're probably listening
00:38:42
right now. So hi. But
00:38:47
that's the only person.
00:38:48
But I still wish good blessings over them.
00:38:52
And I hope, please just leave.
00:38:55
Me.
00:38:55
Alone. I hope. Leave me
alone. Please leave me.
00:38:58
Alone. I'm sorry if I ever
didn't support you in something.
00:39:02
I always wanted to support
you in everything that you do.
00:39:05
And I think you always come
up with brilliant ideas.
00:39:09
Every time you come to me with an
idea, I have to be open to it because.
00:39:13
Well, no, now it's different.
Now we're on the same page,
00:39:18
right? Last.
00:39:19
Two weeks ago when you came to me
with that big idea and you said,
00:39:21
I have this idea, and I said,
00:39:23
I'm still saying that's the
best idea I've ever heard of the
00:39:30
thing. Well, I don't want to say it
because you're not, don't say it.
00:39:33
I don't want to say it yet. Don't say it.
Yeah, after we do it, then I'd say it.
00:39:36
So okay, there I go. See, I'm
going against my own rules here.
00:39:39
You're going to wait till I do
it and then I'm going to say it.
00:39:42
I'm not going to put it
out to the world yet,
00:39:45
but I do believe it's a
great idea. No. So anyways.
00:39:49
I guess we all have our own secret.
00:39:52
What makes something, I think I
have a lot of my mom's influence,
00:39:56
and I think my mom would
work behind the scenes,
00:40:00
but she would definitely not have
any fear going to ask for the
00:40:04
right people. As I said,
she became friends with the
mayor, powerful attorneys,
00:40:09
and when she made friends
with the mayor, in fact,
00:40:14
she went in there and said,
00:40:18
I want to speak with the mayor
right now in her Hungarian accent.
00:40:22
And she was so mad because they kept
giving her tickets in front of her jewelry
00:40:27
store, and
00:40:31
she was at the point where I'm
just going to wipe the chalk off.
00:40:34
They're not going to give me any
more tickets. I'm a single mom.
00:40:37
I'm not going to walk to the
dark alley to park my car.
00:40:41
I want to park it in front of my business.
So she went into the city hall
00:40:45
furious, and they told her she
couldn't have a meeting with the mayor,
00:40:49
and she just barged in there. She was
holding my hand, pulling me along.
00:40:55
And afterwards, the mayor and her
became really, really good friends.
00:40:59
But she basically barged into,
00:41:01
the secretaries were trying to grab
at her and she barged into his office
00:41:06
and he was just so excited. He is like,
00:41:09
who is this lady with the
accent so angry trying to meet
00:41:14
me? I just feel like people in power,
00:41:18
they don't have a lot of people stand
up for themselves or stand up to
00:41:22
someone in power. And my
mom actually became really,
00:41:26
really good friends with
the mayor after that.
00:41:29
And he would come over because
we didn't have our father.
00:41:33
And David would love to
watch sports. He was great.
00:41:37
He was great at every sport he
did. He was great in business.
00:41:40
He was great at negotiating.
The mayor wanted to give him a,
00:41:44
or he gave him a politician card
before he passed away and he would come
00:41:49
over to the house and watch
sports with my brother.
00:41:53
The mayor had his own family and children,
00:41:56
but he would come over and be
a father figure to my brother,
00:41:59
and that's how they met.
00:42:01
Well, probably because he admired
that. It's a great quality,
00:42:05
somebody who forces their way through
the door to come see you. I mean,
00:42:09
I see where you get it from now,
00:42:12
but I think this is a
great healthy debate.
00:42:16
You're not wrong and you're.
00:42:18
Not wrong. We're not wrong. Nobody's
wrong. But decide what works for you guys.
00:42:21
I hope you guys got
something from this podcast.
00:42:23
And if you know anybody who's starting
a business or has a big idea and they're
00:42:27
scared to talk about it or they're
not scared to talk about it,
00:42:30
that maybe they do want to talk about
it, maybe they haven't talked about it.
00:42:32
Maybe they had a bad experience.
Share this episode with them,
00:42:35
see if it can help them.
00:42:36
I will pump you up. You
come to me with your ideas.
00:42:39
I will pump you up.
00:42:41
Yeah, we love to be able to push
people's ideas. I love a great idea.
00:42:45
I love hearing people's ideas and I
never want to tell anybody they can't
00:42:50
do something. That's right.
00:42:52
And I always want to believe that things
like that are possible because nobody
00:42:55
knows. And I love to be surprised.
Well, yeah, nobody know,
00:42:57
knows your idea like you do.
00:42:59
That's.
00:42:59
Right. You were the
one with all the facts.
00:43:01
God called you to move on
that dream, on that idea.
00:43:04
He gave that special purpose to you.
00:43:09
So follow through with.
So you are the one.
00:43:12
It's all the powers in
your hands. Pray on it.
00:43:16
And he has such a special plan for you.
00:43:18
And sometimes the things
change all the time.
00:43:22
Acting that wasn't my lifelong dream,
00:43:24
but it gave me all the tools that I
needed to communicate and to do the things
00:43:29
that I'm doing today. And that's
one of my favorite, favorite,
00:43:34
favorite businesses we have is
this. I would do it for free.
00:43:38
I would do it every single day.
00:43:40
I love this too. I love it. I love
your guys. I love our podcast.
00:43:43
I'd love that you guys are listening.
00:43:45
Thank you guys for
listening to our podcast.
00:43:48
We don't take it for granted your time
that you're listening to our podcast.
00:43:51
So thank you guys.
00:43:52
I hope this delivered some value for
you guys and we will catch you guys next
00:43:56
week.
00:43:56
God bless. Take care.
00:43:59
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