When Business Stress Impacts the Relationship: Tools for Communication and De-escalation

[00:00:00] As couples we didn't sign up to argue every time sales dip or a deal goes sideways and I feel like we're building an empire but some days it feels like you're gonna burn down your home and we can't have that. Uh, no. Ooh, that's better, right babe?

[00:00:28] She founded an architectural concrete company. He founded a hundred million dollar clothing company. She took the world by storm as a social media star. He took the world by storm as a famous serial entrepreneur. Together we started a business. And had babies. Now we're figuring out the best ways to do both. Join us as we learn from other entrepreneurs going through the same life struggles. As they share their life hacks about success, love, kids. And everything in between.

[00:00:57] The biggest communication problem is we do not listen to understand. We listen to reply. And that's not good. Quote by Stephen Cupp. It takes as much energy to risk as it does the plan. Quote by Eleanor Roosevelt. Welcome to the Entrepreneur Parents Pretty and Punk Podcast. My name is Dan Caldwell and I'm here with my beautiful co-host and my beautiful wife.

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[00:03:17] So it's to build freedom, isn't it? Not to break your marriage. So why are we fighting more connecting less and walking on eggshells at home? And let's talk about what happens when business, when business stress comes home, it's unwanted. And how do we protect our relationship from it? Grow stronger through it and lead with love, not chaos. Absolutely.

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[00:04:42] And we're so proud and grateful to have you a part of this family. So don't forget the, all the links are below in the show notes and thank you again. And let's get back to the show. So why does it happen? Business is stressful, but it shouldn't cost you your marriage. That's not what you signed up for. Why do you think it happens? Well, because I, you know, people don't manage stress well.

[00:05:09] They don't, they don't have their boundaries, uh, where they need to be. Um, people need to set, set better boundaries for themselves because that's it. When you take on too much, if you don't set those boundaries at, at the office, wherever, whatever you're doing with yourself, you know, these boundaries that you need to set with yourself, if you're not setting those things, then you're, you're taking on too much. You're doing things that are, are taking up your time, taking up your, your bandwidth.

[00:05:40] And, uh, and then you're not no personal care. I feel like, I feel like you got to have some personal care in there, whatever that is, that whatever helps you believe stress lots of times for me, it's a book. If I'm, if I'm listening or reading a book and I just kind of get my head clear for, uh, 30 minutes, if I just get 30 minutes in and to clear my head, um, I feel like the world's come back to center ground and I'm centered again and I can, but when I, I can feel when

[00:06:09] I take on too much and I'm sure you do too. I've come home a few times and you've reminded me that, um, that, um, uh, I won't use the choice words you use, but, um, you know, you remind me that I need to check my attitude at the door and, uh, and I get it. That's right. You know, sometimes we, we bring that home with us and, and not a, I mean, we're not lucky enough. We're home with it.

[00:06:34] So lots of times it, it just comes from, uh, a bad, you know, you're dealing with a bad phone call or dealing with a bad, a deal that didn't go through or whatever it is. And it just puts you until it was until it for yesterday. I was doing something. I don't know. You're grumpy. The older you get, you're getting grumpy. I think they wrote a movie about what. Don't even start. You don't even say it. I know what you're going to say. Don't even say it. Don't even say it.

[00:07:03] Don't even say it. Don't even say it. I'll shut your mic up. Okay. I'll dig. I'll dig at him. Stop. Oh, it's so funny. Well, you know, as couples, we didn't sign up to argue every time sales dip or a deal goes sideways. And I feel like we're building an empire, but some days it feels like you're going to burn down your home and, and we can't have that. And I, we're going to, we're going to talk.

[00:07:29] I liked your tactic about reading a book or doing something that'll just bring your boiling point down. And I think that's really important and we'll get into tactics. Um, I feel, yeah. And I feel, I feel men often feel the pressure to fix everything. And then what happens is many times they shut down emotionally. Oh my gosh. That's so beautiful.

[00:07:52] I feel like my son just came in with this beautiful Lego real life little man that looks a little reminds me a little bit of Pinocchio. He just doesn't have a nose, but he's got the little hat. He's so cute. And he's huge. Oh, he's so cute. Daniel. That's it's, oh, it's me. It's me. How amazing. Yeah. That's I see it. I see it now. Like me.

[00:08:22] It's so perfect in every way, but that's, you know, another person, people, you don't want to be taking this out on. It's not just your, your wife, but taking that on your kids. Yeah. And you don't want them to see you that way. And, and I feel like women carry the invisible emotional labor, managing the home, the kids, the business and the emotions. So we just have really have to be careful about those emotions and about the stress. Listen, the Gottman method.

[00:08:50] I wanted to touch on that. According to the Gottmans, 69% of relationship conflict. Sorry, I'm laughing at my children. They're so funny. Thank you. So 69% of relationship conflict is perpetual. The key is not to eliminate it. I mean, you don't have to eliminate it, but to manage it with understanding and respect.

[00:09:20] That's the important part. You don't want to be losing your temper. You don't want to be calling names. You don't want to be doing these incredibly toxic things, especially, you know, under the roof with your children. They're going to see everything and the way that they, they see these things go down is what they're going to expect in life. When they grow up, your, your son is going to become it and your daughter is going to marry it. So you've got to be careful.

[00:09:47] Now, the other thing I wanted to touch on is the four horsemen to avoid in business related arguments and all, all arguments. I think that's, that's important criticism. That's, that's a big red flag. Contempt, defensiveness. And the big, the big one is stonewalling. Be careful of that. That's yeah. No, it's going to, it's going to ruin the marriage. And, um, that's why we've got to have good conversations.

[00:10:17] Yeah. Those four horsemen, they lead to divorce. So guys just be really careful. If you guys are facing those four things, you know, get, get, just really invest that, that help that you need in your marriage, because that's not the right way to deal with those things. I also wanted to, to touch on this. A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger. This is Proverbs 15 one.

[00:10:46] Your tone can be a weapon or a covering. So we've got to choose wisely. Yeah. I mean, one of the things you can do if you start, if you know, you just have in trouble with your emotions and have in trouble controlling, you know, what you're saying and or how it's coming out anyway, sometimes you're in this place where you don't want to be like that and you're trying not to be that person. And then you say something, you're like, oh man, you know, just apologize right off the bat.

[00:11:15] And, and just maybe ask for a minute from your family. You know, I, I, I've done it a couple of times, right? I just said, you know what? I just, just give me a few minutes. I just got to go in this room for a second and figure some things out. And it's just, it's sometimes it's the unknown. You're trying to deal with something. You don't have the answer yet. You're trying to figure things out and it's, and it's stressful because you're going through it right there on the spot and you're, and you don't want to take that out on your family. So the best thing you can do is just ask them for a minute.

[00:11:43] And, uh, and if you say anything that's, that is along the lines of harmful or toxic, harmful tones or whatever, just apologize. It's just easy. It's easy. And, and, and they, they understand, you know, they know what you're going to and tell them, tell them what you, what's going on. You know, I'm dealing with this, this deal right now. It just fell through and I'm trying to fix it right now. I'm trying to get back into the deal, trying to fix it, get it, turn it around. Um, just give me a few minutes.

[00:12:13] It's a little stressful and I'll be right back. I'm, I apologize. Yeah. And, and the, and everything's okay. Yeah. So these are things to do in the moment. Deescalation. It's a skill. It's not a personality trait. So it's the, these things that you need to learn. So one of those tactical tools, as Dan mentioned, the 20 minute timeout rule, don't just get up and leave the house.

[00:12:38] You can find a place in the house or even, you know, go for a walk, but don't, don't wait too much longer than 20 minutes because that turns into stonewalling and that will cause resentment down the road. So the 20 minute time, the timeout rule is a method for couples to pause a heated moment, walk away, breathe, come back and work it out together.

[00:13:02] Now the second one that I really wanted to touch on is business versus marriage hat check. Okay. This is a nice little, yeah, hat check, H A T. So check your hat the door. Pretty much. So pause and ask, am I talking to my spouse like a partner or a project manager? It just kind of brings a reality of, listen, this is my husband. I don't do that.

[00:13:30] And this is my wife. I do. She's feminine. She's sensitive. She's beautiful. And she's going, and she's beautiful. And she's going through all the things. And she's having a hard day too. Exactly. And vice versa. This is my husband. This is the man that I love. This is the man that I married. This is the father of my children.

[00:13:58] Why am I attempting to talk to him like someone that isn't all those things above? So just be careful with that. Keep that in mind and just, you know, have that little inventory in your mind. How am I talking to this person? Why am I talking to this person like that? And these are things that you can think about and just do better. The one thing we don't ever do is just put yourself in their shoes for a second. Yeah, yeah, of course. You know, what was their day like?

[00:14:26] And sometimes we say something too quickly and we can't pull it back. You know, you can't reel it back. Well, especially for women that's dangerous because they remember everything. They remember how you made them feel. Remember, you've got to eat later tonight. I did not. Dude, watch how you talk. Your stuff won't come with something in it. Burnt toast. I've got to burn toast before.

[00:14:54] Well, if I start using the microwave and canned food and heavily processed food, you know it's over. You did that. When? Like a month ago. Use the microwave? No, I said something to you and you looked, you gave me this like death stare. Oh, I burnt your toast. And I'm like, I'm sorry. I wasn't, you know, I didn't mean to snap at you. I actually. You didn't ever say you accepted my apology.

[00:15:20] And then next thing I know I'm getting this black piece of toast with my dinner. And I'm like, what is. I actually honestly didn't mean. You just looked at me. You just stared at me like. I really didn't mean to burn the toast. There you go. But I did. And he, and he had to eat it because we didn't have any. So I was like, oh my gosh, he knows I'm mad. So watch your words. But it wasn't that I meant to.

[00:15:49] We have this Ferrari of toasters. And I think that the kids were playing with it because it's got this touch screen. And I think they pushed it up to eight. I don't know what they did, but they, they pushed up right. Toast to. Okay. Well, no, cause they're always playing with it. Okay. But no, the truth is, if I saw the way you looked at me. Okay. I was smelling for like antifreeze on the, on the cover of the toast. Like what was on this toast?

[00:16:18] No, but I've never, I've never used the microwave. I've never, I've never given them highly processed food. I've never given them a soda, none of that stuff. But if I do, you know, wives determine how long their husbands are gonna, are gonna live by the way that they cook for them. So just, you know, have that in mind. I think one of the things you can do too guys is sometimes the thing just comes out

[00:16:46] and you like, didn't mean it to come out that way. Just grab their hand real quick. I mean, we, we've said this before, but repair attempts are so important. It's like, if you just hold their hand and you just kind of look at them, like, I didn't mean it like that. Or cracking a joke or saying, let's pause. I love you. Just, you need to, whatever it is and you know your spouse the best, but you need to disarm the tension. I mean, burn their toast and make a joke out of it. It works.

[00:17:15] And this comes off the other way too guys. You know, sometimes, um, if your wife has a business or she's dealing with stuff, um, I know I've been on the receiving end of it a few times and I, you know, it works. It comes both ways. Yes, absolutely. Both, both parties can be stressed out doing something that's outside of your relationship or outside of the kids even.

[00:17:39] And you just, we both have to be aware how the tones that we use, the accusations, the things that come out of our mouths, the, the yelling, the high tones, the, um, you know, just not being, not recognizing our language and how we use it and how it affects other people. Yeah. One hundred percent. I mean, I don't like to yell. I just, I just don't like to get to that level because of the children.

[00:18:09] So it's more undertones for me, but either way, whatever you do, whatever your triggers are, um, the, the repair attempts are the most important. And listen, guys, here's the good news. The repair attempts are the number one predictor of a long-term relationship success.

[00:18:32] So, you know, if you've, if you've ever snapped at your spouse over the tone of a slack message or whatever's coming through on your phone, whatever you're dealing with, um, you know, you just have to fix it and you just have to attempt to fix that. Do not let the sun go down while you're still angry. This is so important guys.

[00:18:58] It causes resentment and the devil wants nothing more than to split you guys apart. Biblically, you're supposed to be side by side and together. But if you go to bed angry, that is going to cause resentment. It's going to cause hurt. I mean, she's laying there, her wheels are turning and then eventually she'll start turning it to,

[00:19:25] to hate or just trying to not feel anything. And once you don't feel anything good, it's, I want to say, good luck getting the feelings back, but because it can happen, but it's incredibly hard. Well, it can end up with some struggle for the next few months. I mean that carry over for a long time. Yeah. And you know, this is something guys, the reason why we bring this up on this podcast is because it's something that hits entrepreneurs more than some of the other communities that are out there.

[00:19:54] You know, it's like if you're an entrepreneur, yeah, I, I feel like all entrepreneurs have the weight of the world on their shoulders and that can work for both sides, you know, both men and women or both husband and wife. And, and stresses hit people different. You know, it's like, um, like a money stress doesn't bother me as much because I might like, ah, you know, we're doing this or we're, you know, buying that or whatever's going on, or, you know, it didn't come through yet. Or we're trying to figure out how that doesn't bother me as much because I've been in those situations.

[00:20:23] But, you know, a different stress might bother your wife more than it bothers you and vice versa. So, you know, also to us. So what was that Harvard review? I saw, um, there's a, oh yeah, the Harvard, the Harvard review, 60% of couples, entrepreneur couples, um, say that, uh, their business, uh, their business has affected their relationships in a negative way.

[00:20:50] So, you know, it's, this is, these are the things that we deal with as entrepreneurs and having a marriage and kids on top of that. So it's these exercising, these things, these tools and, uh, relieving your stress, having those boundaries, all the things that you can do to, to stop it from even getting there, um, are important. I feel, I have to use those tools.

[00:21:17] Yeah. And I also feel like when you're in business with your spouse and even your children, we like to include our children. That's just, we don't have a separation. We kind of like to blend everything together. I feel when you both know what's going on, you both have the same goals. I include you, you include me, and we both feel connected and that we're working for a purpose.

[00:21:42] And we have this, this vision. We both have a vision. I feel it's, it's a little bit better. I could see when someone is building something by themselves and they're having their wins by themselves and the other spouse, the husband's left out completely and the kids are left out completely. I could definitely see, um, I could see that there would be more stress and just that isolation feeling.

[00:22:11] Because there's so much more isolation. It's like you're living two separate lives. Two separate lives. That's one thing. And there's so much more going on. I think that's why we don't have them as much. Our communities like that. Yes, yes. And, um, yeah, so, so I feel for us, that's something that really, really helps in our community. Um, and, and the people that we've encouraged to really just include their spouse, include their children. It gives them more time together. And also it lets them work through things together as a family.

[00:22:41] And I think that that's so beautiful. Yeah, when you put it out on the table, I think it helps both sides. Yeah. When you put everything out on the table, they know what's going on. Otherwise it feels so secretive and your emotions are one way here and nobody knows what's going on. So how, how, how do we go from, um, being burned out to built up? Now we're going to just talk about some action steps that we can do. So create a weekly check-in business meeting and emotional health check.

[00:23:10] How are we really doing? And this is something to talk about with your spouse. Talk about it with your children. My mother was so good at this. We would have a weekly meeting and we would talk about everything from the business to our personal feelings, things that we were struggling with, things that we could ask for help with, um, advice. My mom would call it, we would ask each other for advice. And then we also had a dream session, which was really, really fun.

[00:23:40] And a lot of times when we would go look for real estate investment properties, we would also stop by and do open houses to homes that we couldn't yet afford. And that was part of our dream session, or we would save up and we would go to, um, just really fancy hotels, fancy restaurants, and we would rub shoulders.

[00:24:06] And I'm telling you that we do this today. And I think that you should, you should do that. Surround yourself with the people that you want to be like, always surround yourself with people that have been there, people that are better. Don't be afraid to ask questions and, and just, I don't know. I love those dream sessions. What's the next thing? Cause I got a little bit off. Well, I think we have a, um, we talked about having a shared language, you know,

[00:24:35] like having the language that helps the other person understand what you're going through right then. Um, if you can talk to them and say, you know, that, um, you know, I just need a minute or Oh, yes. I like that really hard time. Name this season. So say it out loud. This is a stress, a stressful month for us and naming this season and, and just talking about it removes the blame and activates teamwork and do that with your whole family.

[00:25:05] Of course, your spouse, and then include the kids too. Really for our family, our community, that's really important to just include everyone. I think when I've had speeches coming up, you know, when I'm speaking at an event or something, and I'm, I'm like preparing that speech. I think I've told you a few times or like, you know, I feel like I'm, I'm, I'm dealing with this right now. And I'm, it's, I know. I hate it. You get so weird. I get so weird. It's so weird.

[00:25:35] Because I'm like, and I don't want, cause Daniel's like, he's such a natural. I just need to be alone. He's so. I just need to be absolutely alone. Yeah. It's weird. I hate it. I hate it. I can't even handle it. I'm like, just don't even do it. So I, so I warned you. I said, yeah, I got a speech coming up. I need a couple of days where I just need a little bit of load time because I'm not, I'm trying to think, you know, and I'm, and it's so inward. It's so inside myself.

[00:25:59] I'm so within my own head, trying to think through things and trying to think about how things land when you're, you know, and how, how, how the speech needs to come out and what I'm speaking on. And so it just, I don't know. It's just one of the things, probably one of the harder things to do. Nobody likes, you know, a lot of people don't want to be on, except for our son. He likes to be on stage. He loves it. He loves it. He's the one person in the world that I know that loves to be on stage. It's so crazy. We'll be in the car. I'm like, do you want to, do you want to practice it? And I love it once I get on there.

[00:26:29] Do you want to practice it? No, I'm good. He just remembers what it's like to be on there. Like, well, let's just practice anyway. And then I look back. I just, I saw a picture of him the other day. Um, and he's praying, he's praying, he's talking to God, uh, asking him, you know, to, to speak through him. And he's just has this crazy great, like he was born for it.

[00:26:53] And it, it just doesn't like, it's crazy because you know, I have my thoughts too, but the way he handles it and, and someone asked him, he's like, well, I mean, how, how do you do it? Do you get nervous? Like it makes you're like, do you get scared? He's like, no, I just really think about how to help the audience. It's this is my mission. This is my God given destiny. I just, I really need to go out there. I need to connect and I got to figure out how can I help the audience?

[00:27:23] Because it's not about me. It's about them. And I'm like, Oh, geez, he's amazing. Like, so what's our next one? Okay. Switch to sacred time, 30 minutes a day of no phones, no business talk, just us. This is a covenant over calendar. So this is something I feel like I was just thinking about this today. I wasn't even, um, thinking about the podcast, but I feel like we need to do more of that.

[00:27:52] I feel like, especially if you have a podcast or a business or something like that going on when you have conversations, it's always business or helping other people or the kids. And, and I feel, don't forget to dream together. Don't forget to just talk about the relationship. Talk about you guys, because if that gets neglected, you know, it's, it's just not, it's not, it's not a good thing.

[00:28:21] So don't forget to just have that time for you guys and have that date night. And if you can't go out for date night, because there's a lot of the reason we have the community is because a lot of people don't have the support around them. So a lot of what our community does is they have the date night at home, or they'll go for the power walks together as a family, you know, in their safe neighborhood.

[00:28:49] And they have the, the kids, um, you know, or, or the playground, they have their date night at the playground. Like they're so creative. We're so creative.

[00:28:59] So you just have to figure out a way. And how is that? Are you putting the kids together early and, and spending not watching a movie together because you could watch movies and TVs, you know, 25, 35, 45 years, but you're not really growing together as a couple.

[00:29:20] Are you waking up early before the kids? So these are things where you're actually connecting, not watching shows or episodics. I know that's fun too. And it turns off your brain, but you need to turn on your brain together. So stress reducing conversations, couples need 15 to 30 minutes daily to process life outside of the relationship, especially business stress.

[00:29:51] And then, um, I think, did you want to touch on something before we wrapped up? No. Yeah. I think I had one more and I said it before, just, I feel like everybody's got a different stress reliever for them. It might be a little hike or a bike ride, or if you have a motorcycle, I know being on, uh, you know, well, I got rid of my motorcycle, but it, you know, being out on the road, it kind of just takes everything away from you. And you kind of, it just lets you center again. And so yeah, yeah, whatever that is for you.

[00:30:20] Self-care. I was just talking about the things that you could do together, but definitely if you're able to, if you're out of that season where the kids are really young, you're able to, you know, he takes care of herself. Well, it can work vice versa too. She takes care of herself. The husband can go. He holds the fort down. Or he can hold it down for your wife and let her have some time.

[00:30:44] You know, for me, it was really hard because with nursing, it's, it's nearly impossible, but I needed to put the kids first and formally. It's just a decision that I personally decided to do. So it held me back, but I had other little things that I would do for myself. So we can, we could talk about that another day because that's a whole other episode.

[00:31:08] I remember when, right after your surgery, um, I would, you know, because I knew you were going through that, your breastfeeding and surgery and everything. And, um, uh, I would take out the kids to, I take them on a long walk to the park for like two hours and just give you some free time, take a nap or whatever you wanted to do. And, and, you know, those are the things. And I, you know, the thing is, it's great for the other person too.

[00:31:35] You know, that you get to spend this one-on-one time with your kids or whatever that might be. Um, and however that looks for you, but it, it, and, and when you come back, your spouse is in a better place. They feel better. I couldn't, yeah. They want to talk with, you know, they have better conversations. It's just better for the family. I couldn't do that much, but I feel like some of those times, like when it wasn't snowing or raining, uh, in Vancouver, it just would help me just, I, I'd want to pray.

[00:32:04] I was writing, praying, and then just really, I didn't want to think about the situation too much because that was, it was just a really scary, scary time. So I just really was looking for things to lift my mood. And I just felt faith was the one thing that I could lean on.

[00:32:27] And I always would pray with the kids, but I wasn't active, too active because I couldn't even lift up the babies. The, uh, the rule was nine months. So you'd have to lay them on. We would just like cheat it. I just lay beside them because I needed to hold them. And I wanted them to never feel like, oh, she can't pick me up.

[00:32:50] But they were so, you know, tiny still that I could just lay, oh, I'm going to cry because it was so challenging. But we made it work and God was so good to us. And he's still so, so good. That's another great point. Prayer. If you're going through something, if you guys pray together, I'm telling you. As a family on your own. There's nothing stronger in our life than when we pray together. And we do it every single morning and every single night and all day long. So if you can't get up.

[00:33:19] It constantly changes our life. After major surgery, you can't walk. You can't talk. Whatever, whatever it is, you have prayer. And that's your father in heaven. He can hear your thoughts. So don't worry about that. And he's a miracle maker. And he has the final. And a heart softener. He has the final decision. Have business meetings with him. Pray over your business. I mean, you'll get answers in different ways, goosebump ways.

[00:33:49] Someone will come to you and just give you the answer that you're looking for. You're going to know when you get the answer. And sometimes be patient. Sometimes you won't get the answer right away. And sometimes the healing process is lengthy. And sometimes your life will change completely. And you'll just be a different version of yourself.

[00:34:14] But such a beautiful version of yourself with the different challenges that are actually lessons. Because I now have the blueprint for someone else. I have the survival guide for someone else that's going through this now. So it's just, it makes me emotional because, yes, it was hard and it was challenging. But I'm telling you that it's a blessing. And when you go through those things, you were chosen for that.

[00:34:42] Because he knows that you can handle it and that you are going to help others. Thank you guys. And so with that. Thank you guys for listening to. Yes. Two are better than one. This. If either one of them falls down, one can help the other one up. Marriage is a mission, not a war. And in God's blueprint, you're always on the same team. So that's our final word.

[00:35:11] You can build your business and your project, your marriage. But you can lead in the marketplace and love well at home. But you need tools, not just toughness. So take a breath, hug your person, speak life, not blame. And remember, you're not building alone. God's in this with you. And that's that. Is that it? We love you.

[00:35:40] I don't want to jump in again. You can get it out if you want. I just wanted to leave some last thoughts. We're better together, guys. We can do this together. We're better together. Yes. And don't let this stress. Don't let stress ruin your relationship. It's hard enough as it is, right? Hard enough if you're not an entrepreneur. 50% of marriages end up in divorce. I don't even know what the... I'm sure there's a statistic out there. And it's not good.

[00:36:11] So think about these things. Build your business and protect your marriage. Keep God first place. Okay. Thank you guys for joining us for this episode of the... I almost said Pretty and Punk podcast. Entrepreneur Parents Pretty and Punk podcast. And we'll catch you guys next week. Yeah. God bless you. Thank you. This has been another great episode of the Entrepreneur Parents Pretty and Punk podcast. We hope you got something amazing from it.

[00:36:37] And remember, I know stress gets to you sometimes, but we can always do so much better. I believe in you guys. Don't let the stress take over you. You can do this. God bless. Thank you for listening to this episode of the Entrepreneur Parents Pretty and Punk podcast. Don't forget to share it with someone you love. And make sure to like and subscribe.

[00:37:03] And remember, you are the only person that can control your stress. So be nice to people. God bless. We'll catch you guys next week. Bye.